Bargain!!!

jon.bda · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:05

Joshy said:
It is really that difficult to believe that some people among us do not think an old clio that is going to need as least it's purchase price spending on it and about a day's worth of spannering (at least) isn't exactly the deal of the century?

At least a day?, you rebuilding the engine from the ground up or something?

MikeHiow · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:15

To be fair, this car is not a bargain until it is fixed and working.

Is is entirely possible that it will require more than just a few valves, but even still, by the time you've bought valves, belts, head set, service items etc. then you're still looking at £200 in parts.

If you can prep, get the head off, cams outs, valves out, re-seat and cut in new valves, head back on, all back together and running in much less than a day, I'll eat five hats.

How much is an 11 year old, 4 generation old Clio worth? If you can do the work yourself then it's a good buy, but it is not the bargain of the century which the OP implies.

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:17

It's only one generation old technically, you can't really count facelift models as an entirely new generation surely?

MikeHiow · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:23

Clios are strange, there is always a bit more than a facelift in it.

Ie. MK2 Phase 2 to 3, and then to 4 were facelifts, but phase 1 to 2 was a huge change, certainly more than just some different headlights and bumpers.

sigma · 3 Apr 2011 at 23:25

It's old, French and broken.

Bargain!

GT3 · 4 Apr 2011 at 00:16

Leeum said:
Plonk the VTS in and get it on track - you know you want to!

Be crap on track with a VTR box, std brakes etc! Be better off with my Xsara VTS but I'm sick of that car too, gonna stick to jap crap I think from now on!

Iamzod · 4 Apr 2011 at 00:37

I reckon this is a massive bargain, especially considering a few months ago i was half an hour away from weighing a similar size car in for scrap for around £150.

jon.bda · 4 Apr 2011 at 07:19

The Funktopus said:
Currently looking to bag myself a bargain car at less than £500, which should theoretically be quite doable. However, just spent this afternoon trawling Autotrader and Ebay Motors, and do seem to be struggling a bit. As a student, I'd want it to be as cheap as possible to tax and insure too. Any tips on where else to look?

Local papers and free-ads

jon.bda · 4 Apr 2011 at 07:21

MikeHiow said:
To be fair, this car is not a bargain until it is fixed and working.

Is is entirely possible that it will require more than just a few valves, but even still, by the time you've bought valves, belts, head set, service items etc. then you're still looking at £200 in parts.

If you can prep, get the head off, cams outs, valves out, re-seat and cut in new valves, head back on, all back together and running in much less than a day, I'll eat five hats.

How much is an 11 year old, 4 generation old Clio worth? If you can do the work yourself then it's a good buy, but it is not the bargain of the century which the OP implies.

Will be a friendly machine shop doing the work on the head mate.

[TW]Fox · 4 Apr 2011 at 08:12

I guess that beats sending it to a rude machine shop

BigglesPiP · 4 Apr 2011 at 08:15

Was going to call that a steal but it's on par given that it's ****ed.

Cheap motoring if you know how to rebuild a head.

acemastr · 4 Apr 2011 at 08:42

I got my Tigra (granted it's multi coloured), 86k miles, 4 new tyres, exhaust, 5 months MOT for £300, 2 years ago! still going to this day.

Fr0dders · 4 Apr 2011 at 09:08

Wicksta said:
So it's not really a £100 car is it.

if you have the skills and tools to fix it then yes it is

The reason its £100 is because a lot of people wouldn't have the skills or the tools to fix it and would have to take it to a garage and spends hundreds to get it fixed.

If the OP can fix it himself, then he's got a bargain.

Firestar_3x · 4 Apr 2011 at 10:27

Joshy said:
It is really that difficult to believe that some people among us do not think an old clio that is going to need as least it's purchase price spending on it and about a day's worth of spannering (at least) isn't exactly the deal of the century?

Find me a fully working one with more than 10 months MOT for £250 then.

MikeHiow · 4 Apr 2011 at 10:28

MrLOL said:
if you have the skills and tools to fix it then yes it is
.

No it isn't.

It needs £200 worth of parts in the best possible scenario. So at best, it is a £300 car, assuming the OP can manage it all himself without paying for any labour. This is the point others are making.

It could cost much more if the car requires more than a few valves

Fr0dders · 4 Apr 2011 at 10:29

So it's still only a £300 car in that case. Still cheap

MikeHiow · 4 Apr 2011 at 10:35

It's cheap, but it isn't a super amazing bargain as you or the OP suggests, and that is most people's point.

You can buy a working one with below average mileage from a trader for £200 more: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...quicksearch/true/page/3/radius/1501?logcode=p

You also assume that nothing else is wrong with the car, something the OP has no idea about either as he's been unable to test drive the car.

£100 was the right money for this car given the damage.

zipp0r · 4 Apr 2011 at 16:42

MikeHiow said:
No it isn't.

It needs £200 worth of parts in the best possible scenario. So at best, it is a £300 car, assuming the OP can manage it all himself without paying for any labour. This is the point others are making.

It could cost much more if the car requires more than a few valves

you're just guessing it needs £200 of parts, when mine snapped a cambelt (twice :rolleyes:

) it took me less than 100 to fix it both times and that included giving it a service. £200 in parts is likely the worst its going to be.. and theres always the option of a 2nd hand head.

zipp0r · 4 Apr 2011 at 16:44

MikeHiow said:
It's cheap, but it isn't a super amazing bargain as you or the OP suggests, and that is most people's point.

You can buy a working one with below average mileage from a trader for £200 more: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...quicksearch/true/page/3/radius/1501?logcode=p

You also assume that nothing else is wrong with the car, something the OP has no idea about either as he's been unable to test drive the car.

£100 was the right money for this car given the damage.

£500 vs £200, 300 quid cheaper to fix the broken car

Wicksta · 4 Apr 2011 at 16:49

MrLOL said:
So it's still only a £300 car in that case. Still cheap

Do you have reading comprehension problems or something? I didn't say it wasn't cheap, but it's not a £100 car if you are actually spending double or treble that. That's the whole point and one that has been reiterated many times now.

Who will be next in to say "LOL BUT THATS A BARGAIN/WELL CHEAP" without actually reading what people are saying.