Bashirgate

@dowie - yes, a pretty light hearted reference to Assange is entirely comparable to...*checks notes*... putting covert recordings of phonecalls on a premium rate line so that punters could have a listen and a good ol' giggle. Or, lest we forget, the paps chasing someone into a fatal car crash.

Please tell me, because I've always been curious - what colour is the sky on your world?
 
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@dowie - yes, a pretty light hearted reference to Assange is entirely comparable to...*checks notes*... putting covert recordings of phonecalls on a premium rate line so that punters could have a listen and a good ol' giggle. Or, lest we forget, the paps chasing someone into a fatal car crash.

Please tell me, because I've always been curious - what colour is the sky on your world?

Are you not capable of some basic thoughts here? Are you unaware of the mental health angle being played here and then the ethics/hypocrisy issue?

It's not the lighthearted nature of the comment that relevant here, it's the underlying fake news being perpetuated. It's both unethical to carry on perpetuating some fake news story and hypocritical to criticise others for their role in these incidents that apparently undermined the mental health of their subject when she's doing the same thing.
 
Does it even matter? The press in this country are the scummiest of scum, yet nobody cares so it never has any incentive to not be scummy.

You're deluded if you think that... The US is worse, then there's the police states. It certainly could be better, especially in this case, but the country is still in the top half at least.
 
never take news from one side and hold it up as the only truth lol, there is always an angle to it to make the public think a certain way.

You saw it with Trump and bleach...yeah that's what he said huh.
 
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I think they should just get rid of the BBC license fee, let people decide if they want to watch Eastenders.

It pays for a bit more than that, funnily enough.

Yea it pays for criminal coverups and Gary Lineker.
It can certainly be said that the BBC used to produce quality public service broadcasting.

These days the quality is through the floor and it's all about pushing their various agendas.

I mean, FFS, Gardener's World now gives several episodes a season to a guest presenter who gardens with no arms. I feel sorry for the girl, really I do, but making her a co-presenter on a gardening show is just freaking awful. But it's absolutely something the current BBC lot would do. Did do.

The quality of all their programming has dropped off, and everything is a chance to promote some minority or SJW agenda. It's really sad but the BBC are doing this to themselves. Nobody asked for this.
 
is that on youtube?
The woman in the wheelchair on watchdog is cute though, I would.
It's on iPlayer.

In case it seems like I'm picking on the poor girl, I'll say that (sadly) Garderner's World is now one of the more agenda-driven shows around. It used to be a straight-up gardening show. It's not any more.

So as well as the aforementioned co-presenter with no arms, the last season went out of its way to feature autistic gardeners, gardeners with mental health issues, blind gardeners, missing limb gardeners, etc.

Then you have the vastly over-represented (flamboyant) gay gardeners. I have nothing against gay people, believe me. But the current GW production team are lining up gay gardeners to interview, and the whole thing reeks of agenda-driven programming.

It used to be one of Mum's favourite shows, now both she and I cringe our way through it at times. In particular the no-arms girl I have to leave the room, it's just unwatchable for me :(

Only the BBC could ruin a gardening show like this. I'm sure they think what they're doing is wonderful, that's the sad part.
 
Listen to yourself, you have to "leave the room" because a disabled person is on TV.

Quite telling isn't it. I dread to think how they handle walking past disabled people on the street....

They clearly don't leave their house much.
Get you lot with your virtue signalling :D

The first episode she featured on I watched (in discomfort) and thought "what a horrible thing to happen to anyone."

Then they made her a semi-regular presenter. Which is nuts. Yes, she can do a bit of gardening with her feet but as you might imagine it's panful to watch. Has she made the best of a bad situation? Sure. Is she a good fit for a regular presenter slot on a gardening programme?

I'm sorry but no. The BBC have rolled her out because it fits their "inclusive and diverse" narrative - not because it's a good idea to have a gardening show presenter with no arms.

There are certain realities and practicalities that you can't just wave away. Would you employ a gardener with no arms? A builder with no arms? A truck driver with no arms?

Watching her do her work is genuinely upsetting, and that's why I can't watch it. It's too damn upsetting. It's a horrid, horrid, horrid situation, and I don't thank the BBC for shoving it in my face.

Feel free to resume your virtue signalling and saying what a horrid person I am. It's OK, we have a safe space thread now I can run to. Thanks @Lysander
 
You told the world you have to leave the room because of a disabled presenter with no arms, maybe with the benefit of doubt - horribly chosen words which you have since explained in more detail. The only one who seems to be getting upset is you...
 
It's obviously not upsetting for her, just getting on with it as best as possible.

That's hardly the point. Assuming that the role actually involves doing gardening (I don't watch it but based on Foxeye's description that's the case) then having someone on who basically is unable to do any gardening due to disability is just silly.
 
google says she was impacted by thalidomide, if her horticultural knowledge is there nonetheless,that's fine;
friend was remarkably dextrous with two impacted arms writing/modified-car/typing despite it;
conversely, I see the competency of the muslim lady who does c4 news, that is much more reprehensible.

I think if the BBC modified that interview with a prologue that indicates the paranoia Diane showed may have been a consequence of their suggestion that would be fine ?
not seen the crown, but maybe that needs an amendment too.
As now suggested, if the review they are now doing will cover recent issues of editorial choice, like brexit too - great.
 
Talking about BBC moral wasteland

Peter crouch is advertising online betting on the commercial channels and'hosting a BBC euros programme this evening - should be blackballed.
 
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