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Battle of the GPUs: Is power efficiency the new must-have?

almighty15 said:
I wasn't running 2 cards though, and I never have run a pair of 290's... Now who's the genius :rolleyes:
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So it was a single card then? Well excuse my misinformation then.

But in the hypothetical scenario that me and that other guy discussed my point still stands true.

Edit: Im not embarrassed, it was an honest mistake which i admitted to and apologized to. So i assume you went from a single 290 with that PSU to 2 970s? Nice on you.

Lets keep it to the point i was trying to make and not the fact that i was wrong about the amount of card you were running, because as i said: i admitted to being wrong and i apologized.
 
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Rangerjr1 said:
So it was a single card then? Well excuse my misinformation then.

But in the hypothetical scenario that me and that other guy discussed my point still stands true.
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You was using that 'misinformation' to insult other members ( me included ), maybe keep your comments to yourself in future.

Everyone has difference requirements for a system, mine for example has just gone through a complete rebuild with my new aim being as much performance as possible while also being as quiet as possible.

That has meant water cooling everything and running the fans as low as possible, even with my fans on low ( 4.2v on my controller ) my GTX970's never break 40-45c when clocked at 1.5Ghz.

I would not of been able to cool a pair of highly overclocked 290's while keeping the fans as quiet as they are at the moment due to heat dump, meaning my system would not of been quiet like I wanted.

Hence why I ditched the idea of going 290 crossfire and went with the 970's.
 
almighty15 said:
You was using that 'misinformation' to insult other members ( me included ), maybe keep your comments to yourself in future.

Everyone has difference requirements for a system, mine for example has just gone through a complete rebuild with my new aim being as much performance as possible while also being as quiet as possible.

That has meant water cooling everything and running the fans as low as possible, even with my fans on low ( 4.2v on my controller ) my GTX970's never break 40-45c when clocked at 1.5Ghz.

I would not of been able to run cool a pair of highly overclocked 290's while keeping the fans as quiet as they are at the moment.

Hence why I ditched the idea of going 290 crossfire and went with the 970's.
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Please read my edit on my previous post.

That discussion was based on the assumption that you were running 2 290s and went to 2 970s, in which case neither of you would be very smart from financial point of view.
 
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Give me power hungry cards any day of the week. I'll deal with the increased electric by gaming in the dark and eating cold food.

You pay £350+ on GPU's alone, you shouldn't care much about the electric costs. Keeping power hungry cards cool however is another issue.
 
Rangerjr1 said:
So it was a single card then? Well excuse my misinformation then.

But in the hypothetical scenario that me and that other guy discussed my point still stands true.

Edit: Im not embarrassed, it was an honest mistake which i admitted to and apologized to. So i assume you went from a single 290 with that PSU to 2 970s? Nice on you.

Lets keep it to the point i was trying to make and not the fact that i was wrong about the amount of card you were running, because as i said: i admitted to being wrong and i apologized.
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You called me a "genius" when I KNEW he didn't have a pair of 290's and you assumed that he did

the hypothetical you created didn't exist, it never existed, it wasn't a valid response to what I wrote, you went off on one about a situation that was completely irrelevant to what anyone else was actually talking about

*cringe*
 
andybird123 said:
You called me a "genius" when I KNEW he didn't have a pair of 290's and you assumed that he did

the hypothetical you created didn't exist, it never existed, it wasn't a valid response to what I wrote, you went off on one about a situation that was completely irrelevant to what anyone else was actually talking about

*cringe*
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Thats the whole point to hypothetical scenarios lol. I thought with strong belief that this was the case. How many times do i have to apologize?
 
Rangerjr1 said:
Please read my edit on my previous post.

That discussion was based on the assumption that you were running 2 290s and went to 2 970s, in which case neither of you would be very smart from financial point of view.
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Money would have had nothing to do with it, I also moved to the 970's because of DSR.

If I did have a pair of 290's I more then likely still would have changed for that feature alone as I'm all about high image quality.

Everyone has a reason and no once again youre making yourself look silly by focusing on one thing.

There's more then one reason for people to make the jump.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Also if people care about efficiency that much, then they better not be overclocking at all, as increasing the voltage would make the graphic card become HUGELY inefficient...much more so than most graphic cards at stock settings, as the extra amount of power-consumption vs the amount of gain they get return is VERY poor in terms of the amount of extra power used vs gain.
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By that logic, if people care that much about price then they shouldn't be buying expensive Intel CPUs, SSDs, multiple GPUs where the scaling isn't 100% or buying watercooling as all of those things will increase the price more than they increase performance (CPUs and SSDs might depending on the exact scenario, but not for every scenario).

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This is where Humbug does well (IMO); AMD CPU, 1 GPU, air cooled. Not sure about the SSD.
 
almighty15 said:
Money would have had nothing to do with it, I also moved to the 970's because of DSR.

If I did have a pair of 290's I more then likely still would have changed for that feature alone as I'm all about high image quality.

Everyone has a reason and.nonce again youre making yourself look silly by focusing on one thing.

There's more then one reason for people to make the jump.
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The thread is about power efficiency isnt it? I was talking from a power efficiency and money saving point if view. If you switched over because of DSR, great. Its not like AMD doesnt have super sampling or anything.
 
Rangerjr1 said:
Thats the whole point to hypothetical scenarios lol. I thought with strong belief that this was the case. How many times do i have to apologize?
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you created a hypothetical purely to be able to insult me and almighty, that is not considered good etiquette however you look at it
you don't need to keep aplogising, however your apology looks empty if you keep digging your heels in and saying that what you said was a valid point, when it was completely irrelevant to what either almighty or I had said

as I said previously, you just need to reel in the insults as they were completely unnecessary and completely unfounded
 
andybird123 said:
you created a hypothetical purely to be able to insult me and almighty, that is not considered good etiquette however you look at it
you don't need to keep aplogising, however your apology looks empty if you keep digging your heels in and saying that what you said was a valid point, when it was completely irrelevant to what either almighty or I had said

as I said previously, you just need to reel in the insults as they were completely unnecessary and completely unfounded
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As a great member of this forum once said.
Insults are taken not given -Tonester
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And no didnt make it to insult you... As i said, i THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE. I admitted i was wrong and i have no issues doing it. Ill stop arguing now because its off topic and ill probably be punished for it if i continue.
 
Rangerjr1 said:
It can run SSAA of course and downsample (which is the same just done outside of the game.)

Maybe im wrong again? Call me out on it :D

Not sure how effective they are because i dont use any of them.
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AMD's driver implementation of super sampling is **** poor and doesn't work in a vast majority of games.

And even the down sampling tools are no better as they require a lot of messing around on a per game basis.

DSR 'just works'
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
By that logic, if people care that much about price then they shouldn't be buying expensive Intel CPUs, SSDs, multiple GPUs where the scaling isn't 100% or buying watercooling as all of those things will increase the price more than they increase performance (CPUs and SSDs might depending on the exact scenario, but not for every scenario).
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I have no idea how you come up with this "by that logic" or "by my logic", when it is 100% unrelated to what I said.

I was giving my opinions purely within the graphic card context, but if you must shift the discussion outside that context and include examples such as CPUs, at least comparing the going from 780 to 970 to going from SandyBridge to Haswell...at least that would be closer to "my logic".
 
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