Battlefield 2 rant

DYNA_ROD · 18 May 2007 at 18:49

Right i've started playing bf2 again after a break of 5 months or so..is it me or have they made the planes harder to kill? it seems that a good pilot can just fly around and own everyone and they can do nothing about it.
The AA guns are under powered and the range is too short on them you can sit in one lock on to a plane hit it with 2 missles and while your waiting for the gun to reload they just fly in and blow you up then fly over runway to heal again.
They are far too overpowered and you just can't shot them down it's stupid i've come to dread maps with planes on now because there's always some maverick on there that can just fly around untouched in their death machine and there's not a thing anyone can do about it.
They should give the AA class stingers as well and increase the range and damage of the AA implacements just to stop the plane whoring going on it realy ruins a good game, i'm fed up of getting in a tank and getting blow up by a spec in the sky rant over i hope EA address this in the next patch.
**cue playwhorers posting in defence planes are easy to shoot down blah blah blah but you can tell the ones who hogged plane all map by the scores at end**

titaniumx3 · 18 May 2007 at 18:56

Totally agree. In such situations the only thing you can do is hope your team mates can use the AA properly and coordinate their attacks on the planes or simply have some good pilots on your own team.

DYNA_ROD · 18 May 2007 at 19:06

I can use aa properly but a good pilot can just dodge away from lock and know excatly where you and come to blow you up it's well annoying, they are too over powered we need some other weapons to deal with them ie mobile AA stingers for AA class so they don't know where they are being locked from with AA implacements they know exactly where you are and your a sitting duck while you wait for it to lock on or reload.

FrostedNipple · 18 May 2007 at 19:55

just play project reality tbh

OpenToSuggestions · 18 May 2007 at 20:01

i usually play infantry only, as i planes annoy me and noobs camping on APC's really hack me off.
infantry only isnt as good though many maps just turn into stalemate

eekfek · 19 May 2007 at 10:56

despite its unbalances its still a great game, yes it can often be spoilt by indestructible planes but whinning on this forum wont change it, EA dont care now, they have our money and thats that ... play IO is an option but BF2 is about mass battles with armour planes copters etc, they got the balance right in 2142 which tbh is a far better overall game try that

Usher · 19 May 2007 at 11:09

It can take 3 orl 4 shots from the AA tank to bring down a chopper & yet it only takes one TV guided missile to take you out & once its locked on theres no escape even if you see it coming & try to jump out.

Hiding in the trees with AA is only any good if there is no commander to point you out,

DEL 707 · 19 May 2007 at 12:16

I hated planes in BF1942 and I hated them in BF2.

I'm not a great pilot, I can't dogfight for love nor money, but AA's pose no threat, once you have he AA's location memorised, the second you hear a lock on, fly away, do a U-turn and strafe the AA site, they'll be dead before they get a lock on.

In BF1942, the planes were so fast and responsive that they could nose dive from a great height and pull up at the last second, you'd be lucky to get a single hit.

1 thing I like about BF2142, is that if an aircraft is bothering me, I can always pull out the AA unlock on the engineer. The static AA feels more useful as well as the AA emplacement on top of the walkers.

furnace · 19 May 2007 at 12:42

BF2 is an unfinished game, IMO. Poor balancing and too many stupid bugs. But like someone said, EA don't care now they have our money. By the sounds of it we have to buy 2142 if we want a finished game

I'm gonna wait for Quake Wars, I won't bother with another EA Multiplayer FPS for a while.

FirebarUK · 19 May 2007 at 12:53

The planes used to be much much more powerful than they are now. Consider yourself lucky

titaniumx3 · 19 May 2007 at 18:06

They're simply too responsive, especially the J10. All they need to do is to dramatically increase the speed at which the plane stalls and add some sort of damage system where, the plane loses mobility when damaged.

Also for the choppers they really need to nerf the TV missle, bigtime :mad:

. It's getting ridiculous now, because every match has a TV missle whore and it completely spoils the game. Flying for me these days is simply a upwards race to get as high an altitude as possible, thats all you can do. Most of these whores can hardly fly the choppers, they just hover about high in the sky and keep lobbing tv missles at people; on rare occasions that I can get close to them, they get owned senseless with unguided rockets. :rolleyes:

To balance the tv missle, all they need to do is severley reduce the mobility of the tv missle and increase its speed. I would love to seem some of these noobs actually engage in some proper helicopter dogfighting!

thecremeegg · 21 May 2007 at 11:18

I too hate the planes and choppers but at the end of the day its a really fun game, far better than 2142 which was dull and just isnt as fun to play. Dying on spawn is something u get used to

TheVoice · 21 May 2007 at 12:11

Is it still stupidly easy for a group in a large helicopter to take over a point just by hovering over it, while everyone does all they can to take the damn thing down to no avail? Used to see that all the time back in 2005 when I played BF2. It would take far too much effort to bring one of those down.

Lanz · 21 May 2007 at 12:22

Secret is to stay out of armour when there are decent flyboys are about. Stick to DPVs and the like for whizzing around the map capping flags.

No point getting upset with it, you just have to adapt for the map, then you can wait for a city map and kill the flyboy over and over because he's crap on the ground.

Revolution6000 · 21 May 2007 at 12:56

BF2 is the perfect example of how to ruin a fantastic idea. I just don't know how DICE can sit around while the game is a unbalanced and buggy as it is, half of the problems with the game are blatantly obvious and only take a few minutes of most servers to spot.

Lanz · 21 May 2007 at 13:34

Revolution6000 said:
BF2 is the perfect example of how to ruin a fantastic idea. I just don't know how DICE can sit around while the game is a unbalanced and buggy as it is, half of the problems with the game are blatantly obvious and only take a few minutes of most servers to spot.

ok, so let's hear your bugs and inbalances then?

The last patch fixed pretty much everything that needed to be fixed, and right now its probably in the best state that its ever been in.

With the amount of people still playing it, people must still be loving it, so i think you're in the minority here.

jas72 · 21 May 2007 at 13:48

i just bought the deluxe edition.

I had it and sold it on but I have the urge to shout at my screen again in hopeless anger.

Tombo · 21 May 2007 at 13:53

You people need to try Project Reality.

Revolution6000 · 21 May 2007 at 16:37

Lanz said:
ok, so let's hear your bugs and inbalances then?

For a start you should not be able to go prone while firing, or prone then instant fire, it's just stupid that you can drop to the floor while firing and lose no accuracy.

Claymores need their damage reduced/range reduced, or even changed so they only function when the sniper is near them (not realistic but would be a good gameplay improvement).

AA Guns need serious improvements, a good pilot is far too hard too take down with an AA gun.

Infantry need a valid AA option, give it to Eng or Anti-Tank doesn't really matter, someone needs it. Playing Desert Combat, and taking out several Helicopters, it just needs to be added.

Grenades need to have their damage reduced, or the amount you get reduced, and they should not be resupplied by ammo packs from support. Mainly an infantry and city map change, needed none the less.

That's all I can think of from the top of my head, sure there's more, but those are the most obvious needed changes.

MNuTz · 21 May 2007 at 17:09

Revolution6000 said:
For a start you should not be able to go prone while firing, or prone then instant fire, it's just stupid that you can drop to the floor while firing and lose no accuracy.

AA Guns need serious improvements, a good pilot is far too hard too take down with an AA gun.

Infantry need a valid AA option, give it to Eng or Anti-Tank doesn't really matter, someone needs it. Playing Desert Combat, and taking out several Helicopters, it just needs to be added.

These are valid points, one AA missile should take down any aircraft, planes and choppers should have to land to be repaired and refitted. Ive never in RL seen a plane fly over an airstrip and magically become rearmed!

Claymores need their damage reduced/range reduced, or even changed so they only function when the sniper is near them (not realistic but would be a good gameplay improvement).

Grenades need to have their damage reduced, or the amount you get reduced, and they should not be resupplied by ammo packs from support. Mainly an infantry and city map change, needed none the less.

Neither of these are problems in my eyes. A claymore has massive damage potential and a big range, does anyone know if a claymore could take out a jeep in BF2? It should be able to.

Only thing with grenades is the throwing range, other than that they are ok too.