Battlefield 3 thread - Server details in opening post -

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

anyone else have the problem once u knife a fence ur still running into an invisible wall unless u jump? Also it seemed to me that fences, trees and parked cars were able to stop of significantly slow a tank!!

EDIT: guess so as 3 of u just posted about it in the last few seconds it took me to write this!!

Hope destruction is better in release cos tbh in BETA it sucked compared to BC2 It seems the tree swaying and shadow gfx are the only "improvement" gfx-wise and that costs me over 70 fps

The fact it cost you over 70FPS would confirm its stupidly more advanced that BC2!

Cartoony vs realistic - The best way to some up BC2 vs BF3

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

I must say i'm actually gonig to buy this for the Ps3 also, i love the beta in close combat area's.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Just read this, some interesting changes some1 has noted:

Battlefield 3 Beta - "A Wellspring of Misinformation" Rate Article 13 October 2011 - 01:24 AM Posted By neged 9 CommentsIf someone asks you tomorrow about the Battlefield 3 beta, you'd probably tell them about Operation Metro, Caspian Border, and probably the major bugs you came across. Not that bugs should be a surprise, it was after all, a beta. The beta did receive a fair amount of complaints and bugs which lead some to wonder if EA made the right move with the Battlefield 3 beta. The beta had to come though, it was promised to those who pre-ordered last year's Medal of Honor. The final version is expected to be different from the beta as is expected. Arthur Gies of Joystiq states that the differences between the two are very large, but do bring positive benefits.


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As it stands now, Battlefield 3's beta is a wellspring of misinformation about what your final Battlefield 3 experience will be.


Gies played Battlefield 3 last week at EA's Final Hours press event in San Francisco. The build he played wasn't final, but close to it. Noting that the gun-play had been improved, it takes a bit more to kill someone. In the BF3 beta, enemies simply fell over in a shot or two which was CoD like. The actual game is more BC2 like (Geis notes that this is better and we agree). The series is known for having it's true infantry battles where it takes skill, not just who got the drop first. This was also the case in BC2, it would take more than a pistol shot or two to take someone out. If you were snuck up on, you would at least have a chance.

This minor tweak in gun-play and damage will have a noticeable, yet positive effect on gameplay. When getting shot at or sneaking around, you'll have just that split-second more to think out a strategy. Also adjusted was vehicle damage to be more fair. During the beta it would take multiple shots to destroy a tank, but in Battlefield 3, it's more balanced to be more like BF2's tank mechanics. Well placed shots in BF2 could take out a tank in two hits. Despite the unexpected changes, most of them will be welcomed in the final version of Battlefield 3.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

I've booked the 28th off work, need to get some unlocks sorted before the masses start playing at the weekend!!

Just play metro and to unlock the weapons quickly.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

I'll be on the TFU server, it will be my main home as i like playing with that bunch.

Good good dude!

I dont think i'l be booking the day off, after BC2 launch i'd rather wait until 3 - 4 weeks after when its stable

Altho i think i'l have to book half day just to make sure the sever is set up correctly.

LOAM - What slot server did you guys get?

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

I dread to think how many servers there will be out there on release. We’ve put the Beer Drinkers out for an initial 6 month rental but its going to take some work to get it as popular as it was in BC2. I think the server volume will be huge.



32 in the end. 64 is just to much of a cluster ****

What did TFU do ?

Went for the 64, but are likely to add a 32 3 months after release for the E-sports league matches.

Perhaps we can recommend each others servers, i know a few of our guys would prefer to play 32 slot over 64 and prob vice versa with your lot.

Sadly cant see us having as much support from the OcUK lot as previous due to the DON's setting up a few community servers.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Yeah deffo mate, Ill grab you in steam for a chat (at work atm). I'm all for promoting UK clans and all that rubbish. I know for a fact that some of our chaps really like the 64 so it makes sense for them to come to you, and vice versa.

Tbh though mate, I think over the years people have used both your and our server from here and will look out for them in BF3 regardless of other alternatives. I know when I used to used to pub I rarely looked beyond a few community servers regardless of what game it was.

You will deffo see some {SAS} on yours, probably me, if I can stick it @ 64 . My dislike of 64 isnt new though, we ran several BF2 servers (16, 2x32 and a 64) back in the day and I think I only ever went on the 64 a handful of times. It’s a little err hectic for my liking

Sorted, will speak about it more in depth on steam. But yeah I know throught BC2 if our server's were empty we would use yours. Beers drinks was UK’s top server most of the time if I remember right, then Lecro’s SaS server took over in the later stages?

Either way I’m really hoping we can get our servers populated, if not I’m not gona stress over it like last time as the guys we’ve got in the clan are happy just gaming with each other, so long as we have a war server ofc

The only thing that’s gona have me stomped is when "Back to karkand" comes out... I cant see me wanting to play anything else… that’s when i’m hoping one of OcUK’s server can be a back to Karkand only server

well from what i seen of the tools should be pretty easy

pick map select weapons team size lock server. probably just have to lock server for match night or rent another war server .

tbh i can see it mainly being small war scrims of lie 5 or 6 v 6 not 16v16 so it should be that much more to rent a war server.

whos gunna do a league with 16 v16 arranging a war would be carnage . so ladders will be small teams that are easy to manage.

We’re kinda building the clan up atm in hope of doing 16v16 . Wasn't there a GSP that was giving a free 16man BF3 server when you pre-ordered a 64 man server for 3 months?

We did a few 16 v 16 with CB during BF2, although it was mainly 8v8.

We also did a few friendly 32 v 32 with AWOL, MPG and TiG also back in the BF2 days. That in all honesty is something we really as group of clans should look at doing because its unbelievably good fun. It probably doesn’t get much better in fact.

OMG man that would be so so good! Few clans from OcUK getting together to play in the 32vs32 haha EPIC! Talk about unity from OcUK! LET’S DO IT!!!!!

TFU's name is down!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Can I be an honorary member of one of the clans for that please?

Out of interest, how do you make a server popular? Just play on it lots and make sure it's well admined?

Trying to police this amongst non affiliated clan members would carnage haha people not knowing to rage down the mic would be murder… but I’m up for setting it up! Initially we could prob use LOAMS server and perhaps our Mumble as its 100 slot….. TFU & SAS vs OcUK members - EPIC!

With Regards to the server population….. Its all about the rotation and keeping it populated, However you need a good following prior to server launch to get it populated. Hence all the clan leaders spamming their servers here, the OcUK is quite a good asset if you use it correctly… Once it stays populated Then people look for well admined servers.

Its funny as Goon, it can take a whole day as well I fyou bump the tickets up. With beer being involved also, it usually resulted in, well everyone tbh, falling off the carriers. The clan pictures at the end were always funny as well seeing 63 people lined up on one of the flags.

Yeah sounds awsum ,could start one Saturday afternoon thro till late haha! We’ll defo sort this out, start off on a 32 slot server and if it works onto 64

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Lol can any1 remember the earlier days of BC2 when one person would jump on then it would be full within 5mins...... Then every1 would CTD 20mins later! Good old days

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

All I have to say is: EA

That is all..

Its not... Its due to law's over here in the UK. We had a big thread about this prior to BC2 launch.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

I need some help guys need to buy some new hardware... Could i have some advice on which is best here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000302123558/http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Struggling with MOH multiplayer after playing BF:3, but i'm going to stick at it, i also downloaded COD:BO and i may download BF:BC2, but i'll be playing MOH with Goon.

That might be a shout wes'... might try COD:BO again never minded that game!

But yeah i'm having mega withdrawal from not having BF3, even when i wasn't playing it on the pc i enjoyed playing it on PS3!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

lol i actaully have that mobo on my warddrobe

Abit KA7 (Slot A - AMD Athlon)

I know awsum or what... Click on the "clan section" lol rather funny!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

This better not be true!!!

Battlefield 3 Server's Coming With A Slot Fee Rate Article 12 October 2011 - 05:09 AM Posted By neged 5 Comments



The community is about to get a little bit frustrated with Battlefield 3 server hosting. A post made by the administrator of NFOservers.com states that a surcharge will be placed on all servers on a per slot basis. The charge is repeated each month. The price has not been announced, but the speculation pricing is $0.25 per slot/mo. So if you're running a 64 man Battlefield 3 server you might end up paying an extra $16 a month on top of your server hoster's charge. Please remember that the $0.25 price is pure speculation and holds no grounds whatsoever. What we can confirm is that Battlefield 3 servers will come with the increased pricing though:


Edge100x said:

[...] customers will need to prepay a small amount per BF3 player slot they wish to run (much less than the standard rental fee). This is due to a unique requirement of BF3 that does not relate to the resource requirements of the game [...]


EA hasn't actually spoke about the issue, but it has been confirmed by other server providers as well. Some Battlefield 3 server providers are charging a one time fee per month (example: $30 on top of your server hosting fee) and allowing renters to host as many servers on that account. Others are providing a per slot charge (mentioned above). The only information on why this fee is being charged is because of a fee from EA is required to run a Battlefield 3 server, this charge is then passed onto the customer in various forms determined by the server hosting companies.

Speculation From Neged:
If you plan on running a Battlefield 3 server, by this point you're probably raging. The fee is not because running a BF3 server is very resource intensive for companies, but because EA is pushing this fee. Why are they pushing this fee? I believe it's for security reasons, an insurance system to ensure that all servers are legitimate. If the reason is because of legitimacy, then requiring a cost seems a bit frivolous and outright wrong when the price is as high as $0.25 a slot EVERY month. Why would EA need to do this? The server files are bound to get leaked, there are MANY server companies, some of them are bound to get hacked or have the files leaked from inside. The beta server files were leaked and these fake Battlefield 3 beta servers even showed up in Battlelog. I assume that this is EA's way of helping to insure that when the server files get into the public, these new Battlefield 3 servers at least can't be officially ranked and/or show up in Battlelog. Please remember EA has said nothing about the situation, this article will be edited accordingly once news lands.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Its only applicable to dedicated servers goon, slot servers you have already paid the fee, its in your per slot charge.

EA are charging GSP’s to host servers now (for everyone who thought they did, they do now). Dedicated servers, they have no control over what you host on them so there is now a per slot surcharge fee on them.

You wont get this confirmed from any GSP though, they are under NDA ( I mentioned it earlier in a post on here )

Its (I think) why many aspects of the server have been moved client side. With BC2 demand was such that GSP’s had to suspend rental of them. With EA not commanding a fee per slot they will simply not allow that to happen again. Its subscription.

Light server exe means more instances, means more servers means more $

I right i see... Tell you the extra £16/month would have ment another 2 paying admin so thank ****!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

It's called discussion on valid features of the game, that not allowed on here?

Yeah but when its a constant flow of repeated spam, with absolute no positives coming from it…. people get board of hearing it and will ultimately put people here off!

BETA was a motnh and half old build and unless you've got inside info i'd just drop it now until at least the 2nd or 3rd patch!

As Wes’ said… Take it to the official EA forums!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

What? constant spam? really get your facts straight.

And the things being discussed is being tweeted by the Dice Devs and confirmed for release like main base protection not being as server side option.

What you don't want any discussion on anything negative that comes out about BF3 instead palm people of with " oh it might be sorted in a patch " let's not mention it, please, if you don't want an open discussion on the game you should change the thread title to " BF3 no valid criticism allowed, love it or get out "

That's my last on the matter, if I post some official news that maybe negative towards BF3 feel free to report it.

People have been posting their views, concerns and problems, as have I… But it seems you only seem to give negative feedback in every single post you make … Which in turn is very very annoying to some people!

I haven't heard you say one positive thing about the game which to me discredits everything else you post! If you hate the game that much just give up on it!

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Whilst Raven can go on a bit, and perhaps this complaining should mostly be on EA forums I am glad people like him complain.

Years ago games were made well and not just for money. These days developers are getting lazy. They are a business that is understood, however they leave more and more things out of games these days because people like the vast majority here continue to buy the lazy rubbish they like to churn out.

Like cowboy builders they are starting to cut corners. You hate raven moaning and I hate you lot being fanboys. It works both ways.

I will buy it and give them the benefit of the doubt. However if it fails to impress I am one of the few that stick to my word and not purchase the game again. The same with call of duty I have not bought one since call of duty 4.

To be fair its not actually the game developers that have got lazy, its more a case of the publisher in this case EA pushing for sales and releases. Just remember most of the team working on BF3 are the original creators of BF2, which means they do know how to make a game, even if it does take 5 years of patching haha!

EA would have told DICE to release the game as soon as possible and fix the bugs as we go on. While its all well and true complaining about this and that, remember DICE have already proven to be actively listening the community and adding features which we’ve asked for. On the other hand people like raven continue to post **** about the game will eventually put potential players off and will allow the likes of call of s****y to take an award they DO NOT deserve.

So in all I have faith in DICE to eventually and gradually give us a top notch game, and if that takes a few months then so be it…. So long as I can play BF3 I’m happy. All my “constructive criticism" has been left in the appropriate area where DICE HAVE been reading… on the Battlelog feedback section!

Be advised …… I Look forward to seeing you all on the battlefield.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

And true to form... When the pressure builds up from members on him and challenge what he says, Raven will just disappear for a few days until the discussion on him has disappeared and will continue to repost **** !

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

@Goon Yea you are right about EA rather than developers. I really would hate for call of duty to win an award haha.

@davepen. Point taken about the non constructive parts of his post.

I really hope all will be good with this game. I am only really an FPS gamer. I really want the best for this game. I want a game that will last for years.

Over!

The Sad thing is COD will more than likely win game of the year on the consoles, which is disgusting and a disgrace to gaming… the fact a company can get away with slightly tweaking a game engine and releasing new map packs, skins and new perks is day light robbery!

Don’t know if any1 has noticed but Fourtwozero of CoD dev’s has been spending A LOT of time with the DICE dev’s I wonder if their trying to recruit him… They’re always looking for managers at DICE.