Battlefield 4 NOOB tips

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Hope nobody minds but I was wondering if anybody has any input for noobs?

The main thread is a bit overwhelming and I can't really take much from it and progress from being cannon fodder is painfully slow and very frustrating.

Being an older gamer, none of my friends game on PC so I'm very slow to pick things up.

I'll give you an example, it took me months to find out by accident that I can switch positions in a vehicle using the Fn keys.

Any simple, fundamental tips that might not be inherently obvious?
 
This is why I hated Bf3 and 4, lack of playing/practise VS bots. Let you learn the maps and vehicles before jumping online...

Bf3 had some rubbish campaign instead :(.

Bring back instant action vs bots!

//srry, no tips, I bought Bf3, played it for 15 mins, ragequit due to having to ''unlock'' features I was used to ( eg. tank secondary weapons), and not really tempted to try BF4 until they let you play the mp maps vs bots and dump the rubbish unlocking.
 
This is why I hated Bf3 and 4, lack of playing/practise VS bots. Let you learn the maps and vehicles before jumping online...

Bf3 had some rubbish campaign instead :(.

Bring back instant action vs bots!

//srry, no tips, I bought Bf3, played it for 15 mins, ragequit due to having to ''unlock'' features I was used to ( eg. tank secondary weapons), and not really tempted to try BF4 until they let you play the mp maps vs bots and dump the rubbish unlocking.

But then you don't get the awesome rush of satisfaction when you unlock items.
 
Peek corners don't push
Reload in cover
Medic? - don't suicide push, stay back res & drop health
Support? - Drop ammo and give decent supressing fire
Sniper? - Quit the game, uninstall

If everyone is pushing 1 flag push a different one
Watch the lanes the enemy are pushing

Use your minimap
Spot every chance you get
Just because you can see him doesn't mean you have to shoot him

Try find a group of people you can use VOIP/Comms with, makes the game much more fun and it will be easier after a while.

Enjoy it, it's just a game :)
 
uninstall and demand your money back followed by sourcing a better game ;)

It's getting boring now, we know you don't like the game but every post you make on BF4 is negative, stop being a glass is half empty type of guy.

Ever heard that comment, "if you have nothing nice too say..." :)
 
Thanks Josh, lots of those things I've picked up.

Interesting point about spotting and general collaboration. I mash the Q button as much as I can but clearly some others don't. I can only imagine they don't because it identifies the target to others and therefore makes them more likely to lose the kill.

Also I often think how much more satisfying the game would be if I could actively cooperate with others, certainly makes it difficult when coming up against a team.

Finally regarding snipers, it's annoying but if they didn't do it you wouldn't have the opportunity to respawn, take the long way round up behind them and put a shotgun to the back of the head :-)
 
Also I often think how much more satisfying the game would be if I could actively cooperate with others, certainly makes it difficult when coming up against a team.

I put almost 800h into BF4 from Beta all the way through, the only reason I made it past 100h is because of playing with the lads from here.

I can't imagine ever going lone wolfe, just bores me now. But some people prefer it.
 
It does get easier when you unlock better weapons and add ons like grips. Some weapons have a good combination of stability and rate of fire.

When fighting 1 on 1 keep side stepping left to right, this makes it harder for the enemy to hit you and fire from the hips and not aim down sights all the time, obviously this depends on how far you are from the enemy to get accurate hits. Only run/sprint when you need to, walking increases your hip fire accuracy and dont be afraid to play cat and mouse or back out of a firefight as 1 on 1 fights in the open = suicide. The enemy will most likely follow you so throw grenades behind you and you might get lucky.

Use 'Spot' all the time, every time you see an enemy, spot it. Assign it to a key next to your movement keys (WASD) like Q or E or even your mouse. Spotting is one of the most useful tools in the game as it gives you extra points and helps your team know the location of enemies.

Join a squad and play as a squad, IMO its much more fun and you live longer. You can go lone wolf if you like (like those pesky, annoying, camping, noob snipers :p) but you might die often.

Ultimately, the more you play the better you get as you start to remember maps and where the choke points are etc or where annoying players hide. Like parachuting out a jet and landing on a really high, inaccessible platform, hmmm I wonder what they spawned as...sniper maybe??? :mad:

EDIT: Like Josh said above, spawn as a role and do that role, eg the Medic. Stay with the squad or a large group and just keep dropping med packs or reviving players, dont worry about the fighting as the other players are doing that, focus on keeping them alive. Use your map to see where a player needs reviving, sprint to him, revive and leg it back to cover. Same goes for the Engineer, help repair vehicles and drop ammo everywhere.
 
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If I'm solo I like to look for a squad on my team with at least two people with the same clan tag. Join that squad and use L (squad-only-chat) to talk just with them.

Let your squad leader give instructions and try to follow them, res/resupply squadmates. Playing with some people who stick together will be much more fun AND let you learn the maps quicker.

On vehicle maps, try to be a tank gunner, or sit in the side door of a small helicopter with your repair tool out (you can repair it mid-flight). You'll get a nice tour of the level, and rack up points being useful while you do it.
 
But then you don't get the awesome rush of satisfaction when you unlock items.

You mean annoyance, I have played CoD4 for 30 hrs online or so ( since last pc crash/reset), still not level 55. It gets tiresome.

Bf2 was better, alternative main weapons for a specific weapon kit, but not nerfed the originals or vehicles, and able to pick up weapon kits from people you kill.
 
Use the test range to learn to fly and get to grips with the different weapons on vehicles + ranging them.
 
Thanks Josh, lots of those things I've picked up.

Interesting point about spotting and general collaboration. I mash the Q button as much as I can but clearly some others don't. I can only imagine they don't because it identifies the target to others and therefore makes them more likely to lose the kill.

That's not necessarily true. Whilst some are lazy when it comes to spotting, the mechanic doesn't only rely on Q button pressing. There is an invisible cone around 500m plus I believe that if you aim your weapon in the direction of the enemy it will show them on the minimap.

For long/medium ranges I will spot so they are 3D spotted (Dorito). For close range, don't bother.



Also I often think how much more satisfying the game would be if I could actively cooperate with others, certainly makes it difficult when coming up against a team.

Communication does help when playing objective based games, but play style is more important to staying alive. Learn spawns, flanks, routes etc for each map that way you're better prepared when engaging the enemy.

Finally regarding snipers, it's annoying but if they didn't do it you wouldn't have the opportunity to respawn, take the long way round up behind them and put a shotgun to the back of the head :-)

See Inline.

As for advice, if you've never played a BF game before then watch some videos and practise in the game's test range.
 
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I am fairly experienced at FPS games, but I only started playing BF4 multiplayer a couple of weeks ago.

Most of the previous posts are sound advice. But if you can, get onto the unofficial OcUK Teamspeak server and when guys are online they will help you out. They have helped me out loads and I have a far better understanding of the game because of it. I feel like I have skipped a big part of the learning curve you would have if you were going it alone.

The test range is a good place to practice your movement and shooting. The shooting mechanic in BF4 is a little more difficult than what you would see in CoD. If you have ever played Counterstrike you should have a sound foundation for the gunplay in BF4 though. Mainly, try not to move and shoot as it throws the accuracy of the weapon way off. The only caveat to this is close quarters hip firing where the accuracy penalty is not as severe, particularly if you have a laser dot equipped (you can afford to do some ADAD strafing then). Fire in bursts of 3-5 rounds, even with fully auto weapons as this helps maintain accuracy. If you are on foot, stay out of the open areas and stay away from vehicles unless you have good terrain to hide behind because they can be using IR optics and will see you even if you think you can't be seen :) Leave vehicles alone until you are a bit more familiar with how the game works, and don't ever get in a tank unless you are an engineer (IMO), or most other vehicles too for that matter. If you are an engineer and you are in a vehicle, keep an eye on it's health in the bottom right of your screen. Jump out to repair if you take any major hits.

If you are an engineer, repair your teams vehicles as much as you can because it can mean the difference between holding an area and being overrun. As engineer I prioritise vehicle reps over enemy kills, but clearly there is a balance to be made - dont just blindly run to rep a vehicle if there are infantry around, lay down some covering fire and try and take them out first unless things are desperate. Also, try and practice with attack angles with rockets as there are more and less effective ways to use them on vehicles. Generally, hit tanks in the rear! :D

Increase your minimap size in the options, and set the default zoom to one that suits you. I use 50m, but I press N and it zooms out a bit further, which is handy for seeing what is up ahead.

Watch out for back capping on conquest, if you can see enemy presence deep in your home territory, spawn there to help hold the objective. It can be helpful to use team chat if you see back capping going on to let others know.

Being effective in BF4 isnt all about killing the most people. Learn how to support your team with ammo drops, revives and health packs. Help with covering fire and spot as much as you can. Try and find a loadout that suits your play style. Admittedly it is a bit of a grind to start with because a lot of the decent weapons are locked. Be aware of what the attachments do with your weapon. For example, in BF4 suppressors kill weapon range and makes them far less effective as a killing tool (imo). Most often online there is no need to run suppressors. A heavy barrel and stubby grip with a laser dot and an RDS optic is probably more useful in real terms. Turn your laser dot off with T if you are trying to be stealthy though, as it can be seen by the enemy.

Don't be afraid of altering controls to allow you to better select what you need in the heat of battle. Likewise, lower your graphics settings to low for all but MESH distance and you should see favourable performance increases. Depending on your monitor, try and maximise your FPS. I try to maintain 120FPS as I have a 120HZ monitor. If you use a 60HZ monitor, aim for a constant 60FPS. Turning a lot of the graphics settings down/off will make the game run smoother. If you want to see your FPS you can press the tidle key (`) and type in perfoverlay.drawfps 1 and press enter. This allows you to tweak your settings and find out which are giving you performance losses/increases.

Finally, the mantra of an elite engineer is "if it ain't sparkin', you ain't reppin!!" :D
 
Really appreciate the effort to post guys (particularly neoglow and buffetslayer). Lots of useful stuff to think about.

Some questions though.

What do you mean by "loadout" and "back capping".

What are "grips" in the context of a LMG?

Will the fact that I don't have a very powerful computer effect my efficiency in a kill situation? (i5-760+560ti+12Gb or i3-540+560ti 448+8Gb)
 
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