BBC license fee proposals...

It always amazes me how freely some people let others into their house who have no right to be there. I do have a TV license but if I didn't then I certainly wouldn't be allowing anyone in my house to check.

My thoughts exactly,Id tell them to go do one.

I have a licence so nothing to worry about,But damn good luck to the BBC on enforcing this,People will still be watching without a licence. :p
 
Can I have a nose about your home too? Or do you respect the privacy of your home and right to quiet enjoyment?

They hardly nose, they walked in, asked me to switch on the TV, flick through the channels, saw there was no signal and left, took less than 5 minutes. They came at a time that was suitable to me and arrived at the exact time we'd agreed.

They are there with a purpose, if it prevents endless letters and so called harassment, I have no issue with it.

I await the repost of pictures of stacks of letters from people who refuse to co-operate then moan about getting letter after letter.
 
The couple of times the licence people have been in they've wanted a demonstration of the TV
You let them in?
Who's house is it, yours or theirs? :rolleyes:
They hardly nose, they walked in, asked me to switch on the TV, flick through the channels, saw there was no signal and left, took less than 5 minutes.
When they come knocking, I tell them to **** off anf don't come round again, they send me 1 letter saying they wont contact me for 2 years. Takes a whole 5 seconds and they know they are not allowed to enter my house.
 
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They hardly nose, they walked in, asked me to switch on the TV, flick through the channels, saw there was no signal and left, took less than 5 minutes. They came at a time that was suitable to me and arrived at the exact time we'd agreed.

They are there with a purpose, if it prevents endless letters and so called harassment, I have no issue with it.

I await the repost of pictures of stacks of letters from people who refuse to co-operate then moan about getting letter after letter.
You mean the stack of letters people got from co-operating with them. Not for refusing to co-operate. You got lucky for a lot of people letting them in doesn't prevent endless letters and some of the inspectors are not trustworthy. Some of us did co-operate with them and all we got in exchange was constant harassment or worse. You make it sound all easy but it depends which inspectors you get. Some of the inspectors are proven scum and should not be let in anyone's house.
 
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A year or so ago I was getting loads of letters posted to me. I filled in the online 'I don't need a Licence' form and still got letters. I filled it again and still got letters. It didn't bother me as they are only letters and I did the right thing. One day I got a knock at my door and it was TV man. I explained the online form thing and how many times I did it etc. He said "can I check your TV?" I said yes, come in. He quickly declined my offer to come in as he said I was upfront and nice to him compared to others he has been to. We had a chat for a minute before he said I will leave you to it and thanks for being nice. Not heard from them since.
 
I think I can live without the ten hours or so of BBC TV I watch a year. As someone who doesn't watch much TV at all, I wish there was a reduced rate or something. Kinda hard to justify the license fee with so little viewing, so I'd rather just abstain from iPlayer.
 
A year or so ago I was getting loads of letters posted to me. I filled in the online 'I don't need a Licence' form and still got letters. I filled it again and still got letters. It didn't bother me as they are only letters and I did the right thing. One day I got a knock at my door and it was TV man. I explained the online form thing and how many times I did it etc. He said "can I check your TV?" I said yes, come in. He quickly declined my offer to come in as he said I was upfront and nice to him compared to others he has been to. We had a chat for a minute before he said I will leave you to it and thanks for being nice. Not heard from them since.

Now you're going to get 10 replies of people amazed you were civil and actually let them in, prepare yourself :D

Don't you know it's your house, have you no pride, blah blah blah ;)
 
Now you're going to get 10 replies of people amazed you were civil and actually let them in, prepare yourself :D

Don't you know it's your house, have you no pride, blah blah blah ;)
What about those of us who where civil to them, did let them in, did contact the online website and ring in and still get nothing but consent letters and harassment? Are you just going to blindly ignore us and pretend only those who refuse to co-operate are having problems? What about the inspectors who broke the law and caused massive problems in peoples homes. Going to ignore that too are you? Considering what some of the inspectors have done its perfectly understanding not wanting to let them in your home.
 
Number 1, never let anyone in your house. Unless you requested a visit.

2, What good is checking your TV going to do, are they going to check every device in your home for iPlayer. How about they install spyware to check you don't download it later.

3, what happens if I watch iPlayer on WiFi at someone's house who doesn't have a licence, or on a mobile network.

Stop and search for presence of iPlayer, the whole thing I'd a joke. It is supposed to stop people around the world watching using a VPN. But it definitely won't stop them, idiots.
 
What about those of us who where civil to them, did let them in, did contact the online website and ring in and still get nothing but consent letters and harassment? Are you just going to blindly ignore us and pretend only those who refuse to co-operate are having problems? What about the inspectors who broke the law and caused massive problems in peoples homes. Going to ignore that too are you? Considering what some of the inspectors have done its perfectly understanding not wanting to let them in your home.

I can only speak of my own experience which was nothing but positive.

You've all been judging me letting them in based on your own experiences, i'm doing the same.

Just live and let live.
 
Job Centres just luuuurve recruiting for inspectors.

Unemployed ..... out of work for a few months, well we're stopping your benefits, here's a job at the BBC/Capita.
 
I can only speak of my own experience which was nothing but positive.

You've all been judging me letting them in based on your own experiences, i'm doing the same.

Just live and let live.
Just live and let live is how people ended up getting raped, abused, items stolen and more. All things the inspectors have been caught doing. There is a reason so many people say never let them in your home. The inspectors have been caught doing hit and run and many times causing abuse even pushing into homes with children in with no adults. We have good reason to say never let them in your house. Some people like you have a good experiences and I was one of them for around 5 years. But year 6 onwards with them was hell and lots of other people have the same bad experience as me or worse.
 
I will be removing iPlayer from my FireStick. Won't be using iPlayer but will find myself downloading more programs I think
 
Well my biggest gripe is I should have the right to watch TV but not watch any BBC content so why should I have to prove to them that I don't have my TV plugged in?

In the old days you could disable the bbc frequencies and not have to pay a license, how dare they think they can force me to pay for a license for watching TV channels supported by ad revenues.
 
Sensible change in legislation but I doubt it will have much impact at all. Realistically how many people who aren't paying for a license fee already are suddenly going to get one on the basis of this - very few I'd imagine. If someone is that worried about paying £145, chances are they still won't want to pay it, especially given they don't watch any live TV.

Presumably at some point there will be some type of DRM/login approach added for iPlayer in the same way as you get for other premium video streaming services.

Personally I view £145 as very cheap compared to how much I have to pay out annually for other rubbish, it has never really crossed my mind not to pay for it, but I appreciate others may not.
 
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Just live and let live is how people ended up getting raped, abused, items stolen and more. All things the inspectors have been caught doing.

I've never heard these reports, do you have sources or is this anecdotal?

Surely if this was going on a lot we'd have heard more about it...especially the rape allegation.

I'm not calling you a liar, i'm just surprised and don't understand if it's true why it isn't common knowledge?
 
I've never heard these reports, do you have sources or is this anecdotal?

Surely if this was going on a lot we'd have heard more about it...especially the rape allegation.

I'm not calling you a liar, i'm just surprised and don't understand if it's true why it isn't common knowledge?

The rape one is a pretty easy Google search ...
 
Well my biggest gripe is I should have the right to watch TV but not watch any BBC content so why should I have to prove to them that I don't have my TV plugged in?

In the old days you could disable the bbc frequencies and not have to pay a license, how dare they think they can force me to pay for a license for watching TV channels supported by ad revenues.

Given it's all digital now, I don't see why they can't put a code requirement in place (like the adult digital channels) and you have to enter your license number. They could also use that as an iPlayer login for a set number of devices.

That way, people without a license just get scrambled BBC signals instead.
 
Well my biggest gripe is I should have the right to watch TV but not watch any BBC content so why should I have to prove to them that I don't have my TV plugged in?

In the old days you could disable the bbc frequencies and not have to pay a license, how dare they think they can force me to pay for a license for watching TV channels supported by ad revenues.

This. I'd quite happily opt out of BBC channels but I enjoy watching the F1 on channel 4 (Used to be on BBC which was why I was happy to pay my fee). As it stands, there's no legal way to watch Ad-supported channels so I continue to pay.

Tbh, I'm tempted to stop my direct debit as it seems like they're unwilling to change their business model and if enough of us protest in this way they'll have to.

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Given it's all digital now, I don't see why they can't put a code requirement in place (like the adult digital channels) and you have to enter your license number. They could also use that as an iPlayer login for a set number of devices.

That way, people without a license just get scrambled BBC signals instead.

They know they won't survive with the license money they'd get from a fair system.
 
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