BBC license fee proposals...

It's pretty clear on the TV License website.

Must have been updated? first time I've seen it put that black and white and I had a good look over the site a few weeks ago as did a few others. Thanks though that should put their mind at ease.
 
There's a few things things I like to watch. But not enough for a blanket 145 a year for it.
I'll either circumvent or not bother depending on the way it is enforced.

I'd be fine with watching a few ads before and during question time.
I'm not paying 145 for it

Another way the license is somewhat archaic - its essentially paying for the service but the world has largely moved on from that model. Eventually I guess they will have to make some changes or face an increasing number who simply don't pay.
 
So a single case in September 2011 and suddenly all TV licence inspectors are rapists.

Same logic as all muslims are terrorists...oh hang on, this is GD after all.
No one ever said all TV inspectors are rapists and it wasn't a single case and it isn't just rape. There is a high indecent rate among inspectors. There are youtube channels and blogs which follow the problems people have. A few weeks back I watched a video where an a scared child rang his dad as an inspector pushed into the house and looked around without any adult permission to enter. Another time an inspector refused to show his ID badge and identify him self to a single mum who kept asking who are you. Some inspectors are ok but there are also many bad ones. Even had my own bad experiences. So its perfectly justifiable to say don't let them in. Inspectors have a bad reputation for reason. There are a few good ones but more then enough bad ones that its sensible to not let them near your home.
 
Another way the license is somewhat archaic - its essentially paying for the service but the world has largely moved on from that model. Eventually I guess they will have to make some changes or face an increasing number who simply don't pay.

Yep. Its either going to move to a tax for videos of any sort of die.
It's of of date.
Kind of reminds me of religion.
Too inflexible to move and so starts to die slowly
 
I haven't watched live TV in over a year now. I think i could easily go without the BBC as well.

You guys are very much in the minority.

Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.

Of course you have a choice, don't watch TV. I'd rather save the money myself.

If you're a recluse living alone you could do that, however most of us co-exist with other members of the human race so I don't see how that can work.
 
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I love how they think this is enforceable. Say you get a knock at the door - no TV in the house but a lovely computer or laptop sitting in the corner. "Mind if I check your Internet history, Sir?"

The TV license as we know it should be abolished and merged with something like council tax as a flat price across all regions.
 
Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.

I watch very little - the only thing I've really followed at all really is top gear - there are 1-2 other shows I've watched but not to the point I'd be that bothered about whether I got to watch them or not. Infact I think robot wars is the only thing I've watched all this year so far and even that was just out of some vague interest and none to bothered if I didn't have access to it. (Also happened to catch some of the England games but that was in the puib, etc.).

I'd certainly have no problems going without the BBC.
 
You guys are very much in the minority.

Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.



If you're a recluse living alone you could do that, however most of us co-exist with other members of the human race so I don't see how that can work.

Minority of course.
I don't watch any sport live anymore. A lot of people don't watch any sport at all.
As tvs get better at handling on demand stuff the need for an aerial will die slowly.

BBC if maintaining current model need to adapt to this and this is there attempt.
Think gf will be ok work it. She doesn't really watch TV either
 
You guys are very much in the minority.

Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.



If you're a recluse living alone you could do that, however most of us co-exist with other members of the human race so I don't see how that can work.

I'm being very honest. I know with absolute certainty i haven't watched live tv. I have watched loads of on demand no interest in the live schedule dictating when i should watch something. Much easier to watch it when i have time at a later date.

I watch most on Amazon Prime, there series are better anyway.
 
You guys are very much in the minority.

Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.



If you're a recluse living alone you could do that, however most of us co-exist with other members of the human race so I don't see how that can work.

eh? If you're a recluse living alone then you've likely got a greater need for TV. Kind of the opposite of someone who doesn't watch live TV and only watches some on demand stuff.
 
I have never, and will never pay for a TV license. Sure we had one at the family house, but since I have moved out I have never felt the urge to watch live TV. I don't miss it. YouTube and Netflix is all I need. If they want me to pay for iPlayer then I shall simply not watch iPlayer anymore. The 1 or 2 programs I watch are not worth £145 a year. Where as there are tonnes of amazing shows on Netflix which I will happily pay for. Most of the F1 is available on C4 on demand. I'll happily watch a couple of ads to see it.

The BBC is old and archaic, and they have barely any content the younger generation are interested in. They need to get with the times to be honest.
 
You guys are very much in the minority.

Not really sure you're being honest with yourselves, most of want I watch is online, however not being able to watch any live shows, events or sports seems a bit of stretch.

Not everybody tells lies you know.

When I first got my smart tv at the end of last year I had a look at bbc iplayer and it was rubbish. A load of strictly/bakeoff nonsense. No decent documentaries or anything like that. Since then I've not even considered looking at anything bbc tv related. There's just FA that I'm interested in on there.

Youtube, netflix and the like is about all I watch these days.

Before my smart tv arrived I had a monster weight crt thing and all that was plugged into it was the dvd player. Been that way for about 5 years already.

Now granted, I listen to R4 and 6music a lot whilst I'm doing other stuff, but that's different.
 
eh? If you're a recluse living alone then you've likely got a greater need for TV. Kind of the opposite of someone who doesn't watch live TV and only watches some on demand stuff.

The point was if you're living with others they have to be of the same opinion as you, only takes one person to switch on and you need a licence.

Going TV free and and living on your own is a lot easier to achieve than a household with a family.

I don't know anybody who doesn't watch TV, although I had a strange maths teacher back in school who claimed not to own one, but this was over 20 years ago. :D
 
The point was if you're living with others they have to be of the same opinion as you, only takes one person to switch on and you need a licence.

Going TV free and and living on your own is a lot easier to achieve than a household with a family.

I don't know anybody who doesn't watch TV, although I had a strange maths teacher back in school who claimed not to own one, but this was over 20 years ago. :D
Not having a TV or not watching live TV is getting more common. There has been a sharp increase in those that watch shows online and a large decease in those that watch live TV. We are now into the millions that use broadband only without picking up broadcast live TV signals and millions more have both but spend more time watching broadband content. There has been a clear trend towards broadband services over live TV for years now.
 
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It always amazes me that people say they do not watch live TV and haven't in over 12 months, I can only assume these people actually spend a lot of time watching TV, but torrent a lot of the shows on TV.

That, and they are also people who:

A) Live alone
B) Do not have kids
 
I would have thought kids these days would be even less interested in live TV having grown up with on demand stuff no? I'd have thought the concept of waiting for stuff you like to come one would be alien to most.
 
My v+ box has been disconnected for over six months, instead I have netflix and amazon prime on my PS4 which is more than enough for my family.

My wife and I are waiting to see if others follow Vodafone's lead and offer a decent price on fibre broadband, at which point we'll probably reduce/get rid of Virgin and our TV licence.
 
Good man.

Have you had any problems? People from 'tv licensing' knocking on your door?

Never paid it and I've lived on my own since I was 16 and I am now 26. They send the hilarious threatening letters which frequently get more and more absurd as they get more desperate such as putting a picture of a huge calendar with a day circled saying 'AN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WILL VISIT YOU ON THIS DAY' haha.

Whether I do or do not have a TV is up to them to prove and so far they have never been able to prove it. 'Cos they cant, without getting access to the property.

They just threaten you with scare tactics using words such as COURT and COURT COSTS, but all their correspondence is addressed to the occupier, and I have no clue who this person is. When they have caught me off guard at the door I have literally just closed the door on them again. Its all a big scam, and I feel sorry for the old people who don't even watch the BBC but still feel the need to pay it to get away from thinking they are 'Criminals' for owning a TV.

The BBC dont even want to do the collections themselves, they contract it all out to a 3rd party company (Capita I believe) to do the collecting for them as I really think they do not want the bad press that comes with this companies tactics of acquiring money.
 
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