BBC license fee proposals...

Havnt watched tv (or catchup) for years, so don't care.
Really dont understand why so many people still watch TV, just download/stream everything you want to watch.

Since BBC content is funded through the licence fee, freeloading it as you do does nothing to support the BBC. So yes, great, lets all download everything we watch and not pay the BBC and watch it crash and burn. oh wait - there's quite a few of us out there who do watch and/or listen to BBC content...

The licence fee is outdated, sure. But tea leafing content helps nobody and it is not the answer.
 
The licencee fee is outdated, sure. But tea leafing content helps nobody and it is not the answer.

yet he's not said he downloads or streams pirated content - plenty of people watch amazon prime, netflix or buy digital content and his point still applies there
 
yet he's not said he downloads or streams pirated content - plenty of people watch amazon prime, netflix or buy digital content and his point still applies there

Let's not pretend.

MatsyLR said:
just download/stream everything you want to watch.

So how do I catch up with the latest episode of, i don't know..Sherlock for example, if i'm not watching it on TV and im not using iPlayer?
 
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Let's not pretend.

lets not assume...

he's not stated anything about pirated content so your comment was baseless - netflix and amazon prime are fairly popular theses days so it isn't unrealistic for someone to subscribe to those and simply watch legal on demand content
 
We're talking about BBC content here, keep up. Streaming services aren't the answer unless you want to wait for content to be made available and that of course pretty much only covers tv - cant listen to radio 1 on netflix.
 
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So how do I catch up with the latest episode of, i don't know..Sherlock for example, if i'm not watching it on TV and im not using iPlayer?

currently you do watch it on iplayer, in future you can't watch BBC content and will have to buy episodes via dvd/blue ray or digital download

then again there is plenty of other on demand content on netflix, amazon prime, nowTV

just checked - Sherlock Season 3 is available to watch on amazon prime
 
I suggest you go back and read the posts you're referring to before telling others to 'keep up'
Dowie, please, keep up or let him answer the question himself.

currently you do watch it on iplayer, in future you can't watch BBC content and will have to buy episodes via dvd/blue ray or digital download

I pay the fee, i'll continue to use iPlayer. Doesnt mean i approve of the licence fee but we consume enough BBC content in this household to make the fee viable.

then again there is plenty of other on demand content on netflix, amazon prime, nowTV

That's irrelevant.

just checked - Sherlock Season 3 is available to watch on amazon prime

Yes, you are completely missing the point. If it was a new season it wouldnt be. Is night manager available for example? no.
 
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I've never understood why certain people get so angry about the TV license. I can understand why some people are against it but it's hardly the greatest injustice in this country ever.
 
double post ..

keep up with what exactly?

you've assumed he is talking about BBC content and piracy when he could easily be making a point about TV in general

you've then cited an example of a BBC show which amusingly enough I can watch the most recent series of for free on amazon prime
 
Yes, you are completely missing the point. If it was a new season it wouldnt be. Is night manager available for example? no.

So what? Is some sky program available to people who don't subscribe to sky... no..

What point are you even trying to argue here?

edit- actually yes, just checked - amusingly enough if I really really wanted to see it I could watch that, for a fee, on demand via amazon video
 
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I've never understood why certain people get so angry about the TV license. I can understand why some people are against it but it's hardly the greatest injustice in this country ever.

Because some people are just paying the £150 a year for watching non BBC channels. My parents pay the license fee just because my dad watches the discovery motoring programmes everyday. I knew of someone who paid his license fee at his Uni house because he had a tv in his front room for his ps3, and he got scared of capita.
Its basically a tax on any live television, just to fund one network with a history of squandering the money, and protecting criminals.
 
dowie said:
What point are you even trying to argue here?

If you dont use iplayer there is no other way of streaming new BBC content (TV) unless you are willing to wait for when/if it appears on another paid streaming service.
There no way, other than iPlayer, to legally watch BBC channels live online
There there is no other legal way i know of to listen to BBC radio channels bar other BBC websites.

So this:

MatsyLR said:
just download/stream everything you want to watch.

Doesnt work. I know he said 'watch' but thew fee pays for radio, too, so..Do you get it yet?
 
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The BBC remit goes beyond its channels and iPlayer. It provides functions that would still need doing, and paying for.
 
If you dont use iplayer there is no other way of streaming new BBC content (TV) unless you are willing to wait for when/if it appears on another paid streaming service.
There no way, other than iPlayer, to legally watch BBC channels live online
There there is no other legal way i know of to listen to BBC radio channels bar other BBC websites.

So this:



Doesnt work. I know he said 'watch' but thew fee pays for radio, too, so..Do you get it yet?

Again you're assuming he wants to watch BBC content and isn't talking about TV in general. You require a TV license to watch all broadcast TV yet you don't need one for on demand and he's pointed that out without making any reference to the BBC or to piracy - your arguments so far are based on assumptions rather than anything that has actually been stated.

So far your two example objections are available on other streaming/on demand services.
 
The BBC remit goes beyond its channels and iPlayer. It provides functions that would still need doing, and paying for.

Well, 10% of it does. The other 90% is tv, radio and online services.

How the licence fee was spent in 2013/14

Between 1 April 2013 and 31 March 2014 the cost was £145.50 – the equivalent of £12.13 per month or just under 40p per day.

The BBC used its income from the licence fee to pay for its TV, radio and online services, plus other costs, as shown below.

TV: £8.00 per month per household. Total spend £2,276m (66%)
Radio: £2.30 per month per household. Total spend £650m (19%)
Online: £0.61 per month per household. Total spend £174m (5%)
Other costs: £1.82 per month per household. Total spend £357m (10%)

Again you're assuming he wants to watch BBC content and isn't talking about TV in general. You require a TV license to watch all broadcast TV yet you don't need one for on demand and he's pointed that out without making any reference to the BBC or to piracy - your arguments so far are based on assumptions rather than anything that has actually been stated.
I'm not assuming he wants to watch BBC content, I'm the one who wants to watch BBC content.
dowie said:
your arguments so far are based on assumptions rather than anything that has actually been stated.
Are they? (did you just assume that?)
MatsyLR said:
I cant remember the last time i watched live tv. I dont even have the aerial connected to anything.
I use adblock on everything because of the sound/video adds.
Any tv shows i,m watching i download the episode online and watch when i want.

That's quite the statement. cough.
 
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