BBC license fee proposals...

I hate the way the BBC is funded, the notion that people get sent to prison for reasons of not paying for entertainment they don't consume bewilders me, I'm guessing some of these people don't watch TV and got sent to prison, it's highly orwellian. Also no way it's scientifically possible to prove someone is watching TV using detector vans or some rubbish they say, sure u could put a mic up against the house but that's trespassing, to detect it from radio waves is just rubbish.
 
I hate the way the BBC is funded, the notion that people get sent to prison for reasons of not paying for entertainment they don't consume bewilders me, I'm guessing some of these people don't watch TV and got sent to prison, it's highly orwellian. Also no way it's scientifically possible to prove someone is watching TV using detector vans or some rubbish they say, sure u could put a mic up against the house but that's trespassing, to detect it from radio waves is just rubbish.

You don't get jailed for not paying the license fee, the maximum penalty is £1,000, you only get jailed if you refuse to pay that
 
So apparently this is in now...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37226030


TV licence iPlayer rules come into force

All iPlayer users must now own a TV licence, regardless of whether or not they watch programmes live.

The new rules, which will close the so-called "iPlayer loophole", came into effect on Thursday morning.

Previously, only viewers who were watching shows as they were being broadcast required a licence.

That meant it was legal to watch content after broadcast via the catch-up service without paying the annual £145.50 fee.

The changes to the rules are expected to particularly affect younger people, who are more likely to consume content on smartphones or tablets than via traditional television sets.

TV Licensing has already begun making students more aware of the changes, many of whom will be affected at the start of the new academic year.
It says that "in limited circumstances", students can be covered by the licence at their parents' address and advises them to check its website for more details.

It is unclear how the new rules will be enforced.

A TV Licensing spokesperson said: "We know the vast majority of people are law abiding and would anticipate those who need a licence for the first time will buy one.

"We have a range of enforcement techniques which we will use and these have already allowed us to prosecute people who watch on a range of devices, not just TVs."

A BBC spokesperson said: "At present, a pop-up window appears asking viewers to confirm they've got a TV licence when they click to play live BBC content on iPlayer, and from today, that will update to include on-demand BBC programmes on iPlayer.

"The vast majority of households - around 94% - are already licensed so this change will not affect them. You still need a licence to watch or record live TV on any channel."

The change comes after the government said it wanted to modernise the current system, so those watching catch-up TV do not get "a free ride".
The new rules apply to all devices used to access iPlayer - including laptops, smartphones, tablets, TV streaming devices and games consoles, as well as through third-party services such as Sky, Virgin or BT.

Those who already have a TV licence will not be affected.



The key line for me...

It is unclear how the new rules will be enforced.




Wut?! :D :D :D :D
 
Rofl

As far as I can tell, the only way they could ever enforce this would be to put all their content behind a login tied to a license subscription, like Sky do with their content (although it's just a subscription fee rather than a license)

unless they use anti-terror legislation to flow-tap people's internet connections at the ISP level, it's almost impossible to detect, so yeah.... Lol
 
The license fee is worth it just to keep BBC Wildlife running, though I guess not quite so much when David Attenbrough dies.
 
From what i read when you look into it, they're relying on the few honest people that will now pay, some still wont but there will be a few that now do so its still an increase in income.

Up until now i haven't paid, currently deciding weather or not, Bake Off, Masterchef and the odd documentary are worth paying £145+ a year for.
 
so long Iplayer, now deleted from my bookmarks

Likewise. That and the bbc news website, just in case they declare that it's a loophole to use the stuff they've put online for free for years by claiming it's stealing...

BBC news is now dailymailing anyway, I use http://uk.reuters.com/ now.. I'm not missing the '10 things you didn't know last week' and other clickbait.
 
Deleted the app off my smart TV before going to bed last night.

The couple of times the licence people have been in they've wanted a demonstration of the TV and to show there is no live signal. I guess now they'll want to see the app isn't there if they have another visit.

No biggie, there is NOTHING the BBC shows that justifies the charge. I can wait for the likes of Sherlock/Luther/Peaky Blinders to hit Netflix or I might just pay per episode on Amazon if I truly can't wait.
 
From what i read when you look into it, they're relying on the few honest people that will now pay, some still wont but there will be a few that now do so its still an increase in income.

Up until now i haven't paid, currently deciding weather or not, Bake Off, Masterchef and the odd documentary are worth paying £145+ a year for.

Depends if you are the middle aged old women/boring teacher type of person :p
 
Deleted the app off my smart TV before going to bed last night.

The couple of times the licence people have been in they've wanted a demonstration of the TV and to show there is no live signal. I guess now they'll want to see the app isn't there if they have another visit.

No biggie, there is NOTHING the BBC shows that justifies the charge. I can wait for the likes of Sherlock/Luther/Peaky Blinders to hit Netflix or I might just pay per episode on Amazon if I truly can't wait.
Why would you let anyone in your house?
 
We like to watch the news live on television which, even though it is not from the BBC, unfortunately means that we have to pay the licence fee.
 
It always amazes me how freely some people let others into their house who have no right to be there. I do have a TV license but if I didn't then I certainly wouldn't be allowing anyone in my house to check.
 
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