BBC News HD no longer available on Freeview from 30th June 2022

Firejack said:
Hopefully this is the first step of a wider rollout of Freeview to more ISP's.
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It's a step but i would have thought it would require government intervention to a create a standard for free IPTV, to make it an internet equivalent of Freeview, otherwise ISPs will lock you in to their own hardware/services/subscriptions.

Re. BT, can you purchase their Pro and Mini boxes without the need for their TV subscription?

muon said:
What is of relatively low importance will be what they are reallocating the money and bandwidth towards.
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Government clearly thinks 5G is more important than TV ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
yes I've missed the HD versions too, and watching SD on freeview is increasingly tedious (film4/legend/smithsonian).... the netflix add-based(non-downloadable) option is not yet out/priced


BT IPTV freeview - had already done decent quality live IPtv for their channels V ?
Also, I don't have a freeview+ ott box, but I thought these allow access to consolidated IP based catch-up/time-shifting, potentially avoiding adds on the discrete services ?

jpaul said:
if you look here suggests BT's IPTV HD (this word hides a multitude of sins) is 1440 and not 1920 (x1080i) , so it is off to a bad start compared to satellite.
But who know what bitrate they have compared to the >10Mb/s you would get off of hd satellite or whether their iptv rate is is adaptive, so being downgraded due to your particular broadband connection
(The thread comment that BT sd is better than sky is interesting too.)
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throwaway4372 said:
BBC News HD no longer available on Freeview from 30th June 2022

Channel Changes and closures on Freeview on 29th & 30th June

On 29th & 30th June 2022 there are changes being made to the way some channels are currently broadcast.
www.freeview.co.uk www.freeview.co.uk

Options:
- watch the SD channel (lol no)
- use iPlayer
- stop watching BBC News

I'm very surprised that a main channel would just die off like this. Gonna pee off a lot of people.
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I understand wanting HD for films and TV, and even sport

but is HD for news channels even needed? it's not like we watch it for entertainment ?.
personally I could not care less if news channels are in SD, HD or UHD.
 
bigmike20vt said:
I understand wanting HD for films and TV, and even sport

but is HD for news channels even needed? it's not like we watch it for entertainment ?.
personally I could not care less if news channels are in SD, HD or UHD.
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Personally, I cannot stand the blurry text plastered all over the screen for SD news. 4K for BBC News would be perfect. I think reading the posts above, it would be better to have Freeview over IP as a pioneering UHD service. Ditch HD channels over the airwaves to make way for more channels if needed but go straight to UHD over the internet.
 
TheOracle said:
UK and UHD doesn't go well together. IIRC, only BT have a dedicated UHD channel and even then they only have the one.

Rather pathetic in 2022.
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Yes, I'm afraid that's right but this could be a good way to kickstart it. Does the Sky Glass TV do UHD streams for their channels, I wonder.
 
Other than movies(&netflix home brew stuff) , there aren't extensive UHD streams worldwide, absent even for the damn olympics / winter olympics (comcast had a few hours)
- the UK's not behind, it's a worldwide anticlimax , maybe covid can be blamed a bit (unusually not brexit)

Seemed to me you'd be into sky/virgin/BT for £20p/m in addition to broadband to get hd versions of the likes of film4, it's not part of their basic tv packages and you have their HD premium too.
 
We're in the nether world between TV via radio and TB via wire. TBH, I don't watch much UHF TV anymore. Though I used to leave my kitchen TB tuned to HD BBC news, it's now tuned to Radio 6 when it turns on. The living room tv turns onto whatever it is plugged and on in the AV sockets, so that's the Shield, which could be anything.

My TV aerial isn't as good as it was since the winds a few years back and I nearly got freesat, thinking someone would have to go on the roof anyway. Lucky for me we've not had to bother.

Still pay a TV licence though. Someone has to.
 
Huxton said:
Does anyone actually watch BBC news and does it matter if it's not in HD? It's not like you're watching a cinematic movie.. it's just the news.. :cry:
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Problem is the SD version is just SO bad. It's not like BBC1, it's like Challenge. Barely see the questions on The Chase.
 
If you're a genz watching stuff/news, on small screen smart phone, then HD/UHD are less of a priority (let alone ability to quickly scan threads)
- that's probably one thing now retarding their roll-out.and becoming defacto, like the proliferation of 125Kb music on utube/spotify ... trends changed

Haven't seen either of them, but how much of GOT/stranger things are watched in UHD.
 
Huxton said:
Does anyone actually watch BBC news and does it matter if it's not in HD? It's not like you're watching a cinematic movie.. it's just the news.. :cry:
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It's the whole reason a tv licence fee is justified. Impartial news available for everyone as well as educational services. The fact that people see this as a less important and more minor part of the BBC shows how bloated the organisation is.

If anything that's where all the money should be going. Scrap anything else which is covered by commercial channels. Otherwise you are just forcing people to pay for stuff that isn't of national or public importance when they probably don't even watch it.

It would be like if taxes started paying for elective surgery on the NHS or taxes were used to pay for school holidays abroad. These are things that should be paid for by individuals that want it, not subsidised by forcing everyone to collectively pay for it, regardless of whether they wanted it.

The news? local radio? documentaries? children's tv? All makes sense as they serve a genuine public service.

Freeview channel numbers | Help receiving TV and radio

www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

There is plenty of bandwidth available. Get rid of BBC Three HD. Get rid of BBC Four and move the content onto the main channels.
 
muon said:
It's the whole reason a tv licence fee is justified. Impartial news available for everyone as well as educational services. The fact that people see this as a less important and more minor part of the BBC shows how bloated the organisation is.

If anything that's where all the money should be going. Scrap anything else which is covered by commercial channels. Otherwise you are just forcing people to pay for stuff that isn't of national or public importance when they probably don't even watch it.

It would be like if taxes started paying for elective surgery on the NHS or taxes were used to pay for school holidays abroad. These are things that should be paid for by individuals that want it, not subsidised by forcing everyone to collectively pay for it, regardless of whether they wanted it.

The news? local radio? documentaries? children's tv? All makes sense as they serve a genuine public service.

Freeview channel numbers | Help receiving TV and radio

www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

There is plenty of bandwidth available. Get rid of BBC Three HD. Get rid of BBC Four and move the content onto the main channels.
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But the TV license was still a thing before we even had HD channels.
 
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