BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...

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ps3ud0 said:
lets call it a £5 for sake of argument since its probably the most valued channel in the Sky HD pack
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Eurosport HD and Discovery HD are high on my list. High Def Mythbusters, oh yeah! :D

Unfortunately on the flip side - thats a fair reduction in the live viewing public watching F1 in the UK. The kind of figure changes that get shows cancelled...
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I would agree if Sky were just putting F1 on as 'just another program' on a Sky Sports channel or something. But the fact they have launched a whole channel, and set about getting the best people they can on board is a serious investment that indicates they are confident in its success
 
It is a little annoying how few options there are to receive the F1 channel, which I think has ticked off a lot of people. If they had the option for PPV via Freesat and Freeview and had it on VM either as part of the more expensive TV packs (or PPV) then it would have given a cheaper option for a lot more people.

Those that don't want to pay but do want to watch it live (legally)... I'm sure everyone knows someone with Sky HD/Sports, use Sky Go if they don't use it :)
 
james.miller said:
I don't think that analogy works. I can walk in to KFC and buy the same meal for the same price as you. This isn't the case for people on virgin who want to watch ALL (for the pendants among us) of the live f1 races
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Since we are on fast food analogies..

Think of Sky as KFC, and VM as McDonalds, then imagine F1 is a Zinger Tower Burger, and you'll see why it's just the way things work ;)

I can understand your personal disappointment, in the same way that I would be disappointed that I had to pay for crappy ADSL broadband with SKY when you get ten times the speed for less on VM.. Such is life..


Emelyn DeWar said:
I only have Virgin for normal TV as the reception in my house was god awful and the cost was extremely small on top of my broadband package.
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The cheapest VM Bundle for BB/TV/Phone is £37 a month,

The cheapest SKY Bundle for BB/TV/Phone is £32.25 (Or £37.50 if you want 90 channels)

Just saying..
 
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Skeeter said:
I would agree if Sky were just putting F1 on as 'just another program' on a Sky Sports channel or something. But the fact they have launched a whole channel, and set about getting the best people they can on board is a serious investment that indicates they are confident in its success
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Its only on another channel to create another revenue stream - to think its confidence in its success, is a quite naive. It also lets them have the ability to move it out of packages dependent on that success (no guarantees it stays within Sky Sports or Sky HD bundling)...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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I know a lot of people with Sky Sports, I'm not so sure they'd be happy with me turning up at their houses, at some of the ungodly hours that F1 makes us get up at... :D

Like I say, I'd pay per race if they offered it at a reasonable cost.
Just hoping some of the less than legal online streams are decent.
 
Demon said:
Since we are on fast food analogies..

Think of Sky as KFC, and VM as McDonalds, then imagine F1 is a Zinger Tower Burger, and you'll see why it's just the way things work ;)
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Ha, I like that.

ps3ud0 said:
Its only on another channel to create another revenue stream - to think its anything but that, or as you put it additional confidence in its success, is a quite naive...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Actually, I firmly believe the only reason its on its own channel is because Sky realised the timing of some races clashed with other sports they show, namely Football. But hey ho.
 
Skeeter said:
Actually, I firmly believe the only reason its on its own channel is because Sky realised the timing of some races clashed with other sports they show, namely Football. But hey ho.
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Sorry I slowly elaborated my answer - you guys are quick. As far as Im concerned keeping it as a programme as opposed to a channel would lead to inflexibility if they tried to monetise the value of the license further. Its far more logically to make it a channel to give them more 'premium opportunities' dependent on its success

As you said yourself its premium sport...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Read back to your previous post. Good point. I wouldn't rule out Sky Sports F1 HD becoming a stand alone channel in the future...

I also think that the extra charge for HD has a limited life span, so will be interesting to see where it goes then.
 
Perhaps the £10 HD pack eventually evolves into a £10 F1 pack (and say £5 extra for Sky Sports subs) - agreed that sur-charged HD channels will have to disappear (not that quickly I think :()

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
As soon as VM started offering HD for free I thought Sky would have to follow suit soon. However, Sky seem to offer a lot more HD content (mostly of their own channels) that they use to justify the cost. The fact that its £10.25 weather you have the basic Entertainment pack or the full blown Sky World is a bit of a niggle though, as thats the same price for a considerably different number of HD channels.
 
Skeeter said:
No its not. For £35 I get hours of documentary and drama content, and coverage of tens of different motorsport series from accross the world, with large chunks of it in shiny HD (I currently don't have Freeview HD where I live) that I otherwise wouldn't have.

If people are going to completely ignore everything else Sky offers and just hang the whole price on 1 channel, then that's their problem.
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This is all well and good if you have the time to watch all these programs. :)
If you don't have the time its expensive.

Clearly you're a couch potato. :p
 
Mike306 said:
Clearly you're a couch potato. :p
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See, I resent this argument too. How am I suddenly labelled a couch potato who spends my entire life watching TV simply because I said Sky TV offers me plenty to watch?

If you don't want to pay for it, fair enough, but don't start attacking those who do.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I know a lot of people with Sky Sports, I'm not so sure they'd be happy with me turning up at their houses, at some of the ungodly hours that F1 makes us get up at... :D

Like I say, I'd pay per race if they offered it at a reasonable cost.
Just hoping some of the less than legal online streams are decent.
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if they dont use the online skyplayer crap ask if you an use it and give them £5 a month or something :D

im using my parents account :D

i get all the movie channels , all the sports channels etc steaming ony my pc and xbox for free :D
 
arknor said:
if they dont use the online skyplayer crap ask if you an use it and give them £5 a month or something :D

im using my parents account :D

i get all the movie channels , all the sports channels etc steaming ony my pc and xbox for free :D
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I'm fairly sure a large proportion of the people putting so much effort into moaning about the Sky coverage could do exactly this.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
I pay £30 a month for Virgin media? :confused:
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I can only go by the prices reported to me on their websites (I am in a VM enabled area).. you can get Quidco with SKY and you can also get deals for new customers.. the prices listed are RRP on their website today..

Mike306 said:
This is all well and good if you have the time to watch all these programs.
If you don't have the time its expensive.

Clearly you're a couch potato.
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Something like SKY+ HD can actually free you up and help you watch less.. the critical thing is, you can sit down when YOU have spare time and watch only programming that interests you (recorder via the planner).. I watch about 1/4 the TV I used to, because I never miss anything and it takes so little effort to do so.. I even refuse to watch most things live, as I like to FWD through all the ad's, so would start recording, go do something useful for 15 mins, then start watching..


james.miller said:
That isn't any better - the zinger tower has always been a KFC meal and even if it hand't been, it's still the same price for everybody.

Analogies are silly.
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They are silly, but my analogy deals with the fact F1 is a product... just like a Zinger Tower is owned by KFC, if McDonalds somehow wanted to sell it, and KFC did give them rights to it, you'd expect them to charge McDonalds a fee for that, which means if McDonalds want to make the same profit as KFC on it, they have to charge more.. And so the world goes around..

SKY pay millions for exclusivity to the F1 product, to get more subscribers, subscribers that spend more on other services.. They are not going to pass on the license for the bare price it cost them, or they lose the extra revenue from a sky subscription for all these other services.. so they pass on that lost revenue by sub-licensing the product at a higher price.. VM won't absorb this cost because they want to make the same levels of profit, so pass on the increased costs to you.. it's how things work..
 
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