Soldato
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Ask when the free cake gets dished out.
BBC Question Time
- Thread starter Moley
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Soldato
A sphincter says what?
Associate
Wouldn't it be better to drop the 'who aren't a British citizen' part so that average British people would think about how this sort of unfair policy would effect them and their families if it applied to them?
£38,000 is ridiculously high. I know many hard-working immigrants with PhDs, postdoctoral research experience and university lectureships in STEM subjects who still don't earn that much. Talk about shooting your academic scientific research sector in the foot.
Soldato
When is robot wars coming back to the BBC?
Soldato
It's filmed about 6 hours before I goes on TV.
Really? I’ve been on other debate shows and they were broadcast live. I also remember a show being cancelled mid-broadcast because of a bomb threat or fire alarm or something.
Filming is between 6pm and 9pm.
Perhaps it's a difference between BBC England and BBC Scotland? Anyway, I sit corrected.
Soldato
So I find the image I took. That was 8.30pm apparently, but look how light it is in the background. I'm certain it's not live, perhaps 6 hours ahead was over the top, but I remember getting there fairly early and then you have the warm up show and then the real panel comes out and does the actual show, and then they edit anything that needs it and then it goes out on TV.
Caporegime
They would get paid more
If what they research provided more cash. Simple economics. Maybe their research is actually just fluffy crap garbage that doesn't matter... Maybe it's not? Guess a lot of science just gets done for the sake of it.
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Caporegime
Ask them how to stop hedgehogs getting in your garden, then spin it into an illegal immigration issue and scream heil Hitler at the end.
Soldato
And we have a late entry into the most stupid post of the year contest! Research scientists are badly paid welcome to a world that values influencers and reality stars above academics!
Caporegime
Research scientists are badly paid...
Thats it?
Thats bad is it? Looks ok to me? literally the first google hit i got im sure theres plenty of mundane ones without much importance being paid lower. I assume running the same tests 1000x a day for some medical company.. Dont worry you can all be replaced by machines soon. Then you'll have ZERO value!
Are only British research scientists badly paid? Thought about leaving a sinking ship? Are fields that are generally more useful more well paid? Looks like it from here? How much research is just dead ends? Seems a crappy job choice unless you love the Lifestyle/atmosphere/buzz. (like my job utterly **** but fun and less than Zero stress..)
Thats it?
Thats bad is it? Looks ok to me? literally the first google hit i got im sure theres plenty of mundane ones without much importance being paid lower. I assume running the same tests 1000x a day for some medical company.. Dont worry you can all be replaced by machines soon. Then you'll have ZERO value!
Are only British research scientists badly paid? Thought about leaving a sinking ship? Are fields that are generally more useful more well paid? Looks like it from here? How much research is just dead ends? Seems a crappy job choice unless you love the Lifestyle/atmosphere/buzz. (like my job utterly **** but fun and less than Zero stress..)
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Well, academic Molecular Biologists invented the genetic engineering techniques which made the Covid vaccines possible, so this sort of fundamental research has a great deal of value but is rarely pursued by private companies due to the expense. Typically, an important discovery is made by a relatively poorly paid academic research scientist and then it is developed by an existing Pharmaceutical/Biotechnology company or a spin-out company is formed to exploit it.
Computer Science research is a far better paid field than the Biological Sciences. No, postdocs in our field don't just run thousands of simple tests for private companies they produce fundamental original research for publication in international peer reviewed journals. If they were just doing R&D for private companies they would be better paid.
A Biological Sciences postdoc's starting salary is around £34,000 to £36,000. The lecturer's starting salary is around £37,000. The minimum salary requirement for an immigrant is now £38,700.
No. It's common for academic research scientists in the Biological Sciences sector internationally to be relatively poorly paid for their qualifications and skills. I left academia and became the Research Manager in a British Biotechnology company and went from a lecturer's salary of around £28,000 (13 years ago) to a salary of £80,000.
Well that was fun. My question wasn’t selected but I did get selected to comment on someone else’s. 
Caporegime
Well that was fun. My question wasn’t selected but I did get selected to comment on someone else’s.
Give us a clue.