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Killa_ken tbh. ROOOOOID RAAAGE RAWWWRRR
He'd be like Popeye except instead of a can of spinach he'd get out a load of roids and inject himself before dishing out some justice.
Being Falsely Accused
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Killa_ken tbh. ROOOOOID RAAAGE RAWWWRRR
He'd be like Popeye except instead of a can of spinach he'd get out a load of roids and inject himself before dishing out some justice.
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ive not read it but i will say if someone falsely accuses you of something, kill them, problem solved.
Yup, do this. She sounds like an idiot... and the whole thing may have been prompted by a casual word to her bloke, who then persuaded her that you were trying it on etc etc. Get a responsible adult to accompany you, it will make things 10x easier and they can provide an objective, level-headed presence (provided you don't bring a nutter).
Pretty sure you need a criminal conviction for it to show up on a CRB check.
Besides the boss has nothing to report. The police wouldn't do anything as he's not the one making the allegations.
It would never get that far anyway, it's an in house issue and there's no evidence to top it all off.
If the employers are stupid enough to side with the lady then the OP is better off not working for them. If they side with the OP then it's good riddance to someone who's out to make life hard for a hard grafting young man.
OP, keep your cool. State your case calmly and be entirely logical about the whole thing. She doesn't have proof of anything and will probably go off the rails during her meeting. As has already been said, remember that she shouldn't be present during your meeting and her husband definitely shouldn't either.
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Take a friend and take notes!
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kill?
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I would take a friend, preferably a girl to make it look like you got hos all over the place. 
. Or if she is allowed her husband then take someone really huge if possible just to give you confidence. you don't want some Spanish guy shouting at you putting you off.
Don't let them speak in Spanish, ask them to stop.
Get a Union rep if possible, although perhaps if it goes further.
As said they will be taking notes, don't slip up and say something that might be incriminating, speak concisely.
ask for examples of these incidents. she might have made up some examples but if she is just being a **** she might not have thought it through.
Hope it goes well, as said be careful, if you don't sort it out it could get very very serious fast. Good luck, hope you are OK, if you do win you must raise some form of complaint or sue for mental anguish.
. Or if she is allowed her husband then take someone really huge if possible just to give you confidence. you don't want some Spanish guy shouting at you putting you off.Don't let them speak in Spanish, ask them to stop.
Get a Union rep if possible, although perhaps if it goes further.
As said they will be taking notes, don't slip up and say something that might be incriminating, speak concisely.
ask for examples of these incidents. she might have made up some examples but if she is just being a **** she might not have thought it through.
Hope it goes well, as said be careful, if you don't sort it out it could get very very serious fast. Good luck, hope you are OK, if you do win you must raise some form of complaint or sue for mental anguish.
she needs to provide actual proof - her screaming husband as witness doesn't cut it. she needs a witness, or a very, very, convincing story. its her word against yours, unless other members of staff come to support her story, or also accuse you.
That said, companies take sexual harassment quite seriously, they expose themselves (phnar) if they are deemed to dismiss or disregard accusations summarily. Its as close to guilty until proven innocent as you'll find in any disciplinary procedure.
Assuming you weren't acting inappropriately you have to fight your case, and do so without anger or recrimination. Also given the husband's behaviour, you are within your rights to insist that he is not present at internal company proceedings. If he continues to harass or intimidate you, let your company know that you intend to involve the police as you have legitimate grounds to fear for your safety.
That said, companies take sexual harassment quite seriously, they expose themselves (phnar) if they are deemed to dismiss or disregard accusations summarily. Its as close to guilty until proven innocent as you'll find in any disciplinary procedure.
Assuming you weren't acting inappropriately you have to fight your case, and do so without anger or recrimination. Also given the husband's behaviour, you are within your rights to insist that he is not present at internal company proceedings. If he continues to harass or intimidate you, let your company know that you intend to involve the police as you have legitimate grounds to fear for your safety.
Make sure you tell them what you posted in the original post and don't forget to add that you wouldn't touch her as tbh you find her unattractive. (But perhaps all this comes from that time she asked you for sex and you turned her down 
It must be a revenge thing )
It is a shame I am working constantly over the next few weeks as I would quite happily have come down to bristol and acted as your 'advisor' during the disciplinary. I have been to so many for so many differrent things as support for people (not for me) that I find it very hard to get rattled by some jealous knob of a husband.
It must be a revenge thing )It is a shame I am working constantly over the next few weeks as I would quite happily have come down to bristol and acted as your 'advisor' during the disciplinary. I have been to so many for so many differrent things as support for people (not for me) that I find it very hard to get rattled by some jealous knob of a husband.
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Find another job, surely it can't be worth all the rubbish you're getting. There must be plenty of places to work in your area?
Knowing sod's law, she will be considered fairly fit, her husband really jealous and hot blooded Spaniard and original poster single and young, and to make matters worse - probably worth relatively less to the management than the two of them. no one, ever, under any circumstance, will allow both parties to continue working under the same roof with people they brought to disciplinary hearing for sexual harassment. It just doesn't happen. No manager would allow it. Very simple calculation of odds and unless said manager is also tired of the couple stirring things up the whole situation is not looking particularly good.
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Remember that things like this are a pita for employers and they want the whole thing to go away. Basically it's her word against yours, so unless some independent third party shows up, the employer has no evidence to do anything.
As above, take someone with you if possible.
Take notes
Start off asking what the procedure is, what the next step is Ask what your rights are, ask whether it's appropriate that you consult a solicitor
Ask what you've been accused of and I mean specifics - you were rubbing up against her, eh? How? In what way?... an ordinary crowded way or a sexual way? A sexual way huh? How was it sexual? What she may regard as sexual may be cultural thing (well....maybe not)
Get dates times etc...ask for details of at least 5 separate instances...nothing vague like "wednesday morning" but specifics, you know Colonel Mustard in the Library with the lead piping (fnaar) @9:15 yesterday. Her being at all vague amounts to heresay and isn't good enough.
At this point, don't get drawn into making rebuttals of specific accusations, take a deep breath and ask for her evidence. Save your comeback for the next stage (hopefully there won't be one)
If she believed this was happening, why didn't she tell you to stop (major omission on her part- are you an intimidating charatcter?). Why didn't she get your/her supervisor involved - had she had informal conversations with supervisors (if not, why not - how the hell were you supposed to know there was a problem and now she's gone all nuclear).
Make a very stong point about her getting her husband involved and say you were harassed and intimidated by him - was it on company premises? - an employer has a duty to protect it's employees and that includes you. Is he waiting outside in the car to harass you after? Say you are concerned for your personal safety
To any accusation, complete denial is irrefutable unless she has some other impartial evidence...do you have cctv in the restuarant? Has it been checked?
If what your friend says is true about this happening before, bring this up at the end saying you have been told this has happened before - ask them if this is true. If they deny it your quote should be "So you are 100% telling me that this sort of thing has never happened before?" Make sure you get an affirmitive from both company reps individually
Good luck - just keep in mind that the only person who's present who wants this meeting is her. You don't want it, and neither do your employers
As above, take someone with you if possible.
Take notes
Start off asking what the procedure is, what the next step is Ask what your rights are, ask whether it's appropriate that you consult a solicitor
Ask what you've been accused of and I mean specifics - you were rubbing up against her, eh? How? In what way?... an ordinary crowded way or a sexual way? A sexual way huh? How was it sexual? What she may regard as sexual may be cultural thing (well....maybe not)
Get dates times etc...ask for details of at least 5 separate instances...nothing vague like "wednesday morning" but specifics, you know Colonel Mustard in the Library with the lead piping (fnaar) @9:15 yesterday. Her being at all vague amounts to heresay and isn't good enough.
At this point, don't get drawn into making rebuttals of specific accusations, take a deep breath and ask for her evidence. Save your comeback for the next stage (hopefully there won't be one)
If she believed this was happening, why didn't she tell you to stop (major omission on her part- are you an intimidating charatcter?). Why didn't she get your/her supervisor involved - had she had informal conversations with supervisors (if not, why not - how the hell were you supposed to know there was a problem and now she's gone all nuclear).
Make a very stong point about her getting her husband involved and say you were harassed and intimidated by him - was it on company premises? - an employer has a duty to protect it's employees and that includes you. Is he waiting outside in the car to harass you after? Say you are concerned for your personal safety
To any accusation, complete denial is irrefutable unless she has some other impartial evidence...do you have cctv in the restuarant? Has it been checked?
If what your friend says is true about this happening before, bring this up at the end saying you have been told this has happened before - ask them if this is true. If they deny it your quote should be "So you are 100% telling me that this sort of thing has never happened before?" Make sure you get an affirmitive from both company reps individually
Good luck - just keep in mind that the only person who's present who wants this meeting is her. You don't want it, and neither do your employers