Poll: Belgian Grand Prix 2017, Spa-Francorchamps - Race 12/20

[this_is_gav]

I don't know if you've spotted that Le Mans is slightly longer than the average F1 track. The slow zones have specific start positions on the entry to corners that could be quite some way before the actual problem and then back to racing speed at the exit of a corner once clear of the problem. You would end up with slow zones that cover a considerable chunk of an F1 track so it makes sense to have a VSC instead.

It would use the same electronic timing loops that F1 already has. All you need are 5-7 of those sectors - eg, sector 1 speed reduced, sector 2 constant speed, sector 3 (where the incident is) still constant, sector 4 prepare to go back to racing, sector 5 back up to racing speed. In the incident at question that would cover, what, the bottom of Eau Rouge to the top of the Kemmel Straight at Spa perhaps, with Verstappen's car in the middle, with racing around the rest of the track and no-one gaining an advantage (you would have to ensure that each driver went through the zone the same number of times of course).

The only thing that stopped F1 from introducing it is F1.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

The FIA has been pushing hard all season to clamp down on teams burning oil for performance gains, with a series of technical directives being published.

The latest move came in July, when the FIA informed teams that any new engine introduced from the Italian GP would be allowed a maximum consumption of 0.9 litres of oil per 100km.

However, engines brought in before then would be allowed to use up to 1.2 litres per 100km, handing an advantage to anyone able to get engines ready before Italy.

Mercedes duly introduced its fourth and final power unit of the campaign in Belgium, prompting intrigue about whether or not the timing was related to the Monza oil burn limit.

It is understood that Ferrari in particular was not happy with the situation, because it had been under the impression Mercedes would not introduce a new engine in Belgium, so was caught by surprise.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-easy-amid-fresh-oil-burn-intrigue-946251/

Lol if Ferrari were caught out by this.

 

[413x]

It's not of a cheek for alonso to just give up (if that did happen)
He's not exactly being paid peanuts is he

A lot of drivers attitudes are generally unpleasant now. Or maybe just see more of it than used to

 

[The_Abyss]

Autosport have an article saying Honda found no problems with the engine after Alonso retired. Is the frustration of an under-performing engine compared to other teams starting to boil over?

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131488/honda-found-no-problem-with-alonso-engine

I think Alonso was pretty clear early in the season that he would retire the car if he couldn't compete for a points finish.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Reports coming out that he'll be starting from the back of the grid for Monza due to part penalties, so they can use the best components for Singapore.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Lol if Ferrari were caught out by this.

That is indeed funny, sounds like it has only benefitted Mercedes.

 

[Alibaba99]

It would use the same electronic timing loops that F1 already has. All you need are 5-7 of those sectors - eg, sector 1 speed reduced, sector 2 constant speed, sector 3 (where the incident is) still constant, sector 4 prepare to go back to racing, sector 5 back up to racing speed. In the incident at question that would cover, what, the bottom of Eau Rouge to the top of the Kemmel Straight at Spa perhaps, with Verstappen's car in the middle, with racing around the rest of the track and no-one gaining an advantage (you would have to ensure that each driver went through the zone the same number of times of course).

The only thing that stopped F1 from introducing it is F1.

Eau Rouge isn't a braking point though, so the slow zone would start back at La Source. It works at Le Mans due to the length of the track, so you can have very extended zones that start at natural slowing points in the circuit.

 

[Glanza]

 

[mmj_uk]

Autosport have an article saying Honda found no problems with the engine after Alonso retired. Is the frustration of an under-performing engine compared to other teams starting to boil over?

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131488/honda-found-no-problem-with-alonso-engine

I personally think that half what is said over radio is theatre aimed at deceiving the viewers, the team probably just had a plan going into the race that if they were not competitive Alonso could retire to save the engine. It's like what happened with Kimi giving Vettel a tow in Q3 it was probably all planned beforehand, right down to Kimi saying that he made a mistake early in the lap and then his message about giving Vettel a tow which makes it seem unplanned to viewers.

 

[The_Abyss]

Only there was no point in Alonso saving the engine, as it is being replaced with an update and the requisite 55 place grid penalty at Monza.

 

[mmj_uk]

Well there's not really much point in the finishing the race if you're outside the points either, his team mate can use the race to get a bit more experience but it's not like Alonso needs that he needs a competitive car that isn't a sitting duck on the main straights. Frankly, he's too good a driver to be with the McLaren team as it's performing now so I can understand them giving him some leniency.