Benefits Street

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leaskovski

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On c4 now.

Is this for real? Some chap is showing how to shoplift!? What kind of stupid ass doesn't know the film people are gonna shop him by broadcasting it.

Dear oh dear.
 
Oh well, that was short lived, he got arrested anyway for branching his asbo and then f and Jeff at the cops.

I think I need to wash my eyes out.
 
its like daily mail porn....

I love the way the 50p man thinks he's providing some sort of community service...

the shoplifter with an ASBO banning him from the local town really was a tool

as for the woman facing eviction - its not surprising why so many landlords are reluctant to rent to DSS types...

the state of the street itself just says it all... discarded mattresses, sofas etc... these people really aren't helping their situation.
 
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one family was in a dailymail article saying how C4 were trying to make the street look like a rubbish tip and manipulating vulnerable people in order to get the tv viewer reaction they are aiming for.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-accuse-Channel-4-manipulative-stitch-up.html

let's face it most council estates will like be 100% benefit claimants as most people get child tax credits or housing benefit, even people working can get housing benefit payments depending on their earnings etc.......

I think job seekers allowance or whatever it is called these days is the least of our worries and likely a very small proportion of the benefit budget
 
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I wonder when we're going to have a program vilifying pensioners. After all, they are far and away the biggest welfare claimants, and they give nothing back.
 
dowie said:
I love the way the 50p man thinks he's providing some sort of community service...
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To be fair to him, at least he was a) making an effort to actually sort himself out, b) doing it legally, c) doing it in a way which would potentially help out others in similar situations.

The rest of them on the other hand...
 
arknor said:
one family was in a dailymail article saying how C4 were trying to make the street look like a rubbish tip and manipulating vulnerable people in order to get the tv viewer reaction they are aiming for.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-accuse-Channel-4-manipulative-stitch-up.html

let's face it most council estates will like be 100% benefit claimants as most people get child tax credits or housing benefit, even people working can get housing benefit payments depending on their earnings etc.......

I think job seekers allowance or whatever it is called these days is the least of our worries and likely a very small proportion of the benefit budget
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The budget for benefits for unemployed people is little over 2.5% of the total benefits budget but then these people will also be claiming housing benefit, income support, council tax... some will be claiming child benefit themselves which brings it up to about 30% of the budget.

Benefits for the elderly take up 40+% of the budget...
 
Haggisman said:
To be fair to him, at least he was a) making an effort to actually sort himself out, b) doing it legally, c) doing it in a way which would potentially help out others in similar situations.
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I saw it as quite the opposite. He was making *massive* profits from vulnerable (or simply stupid) people, which put him in an entirely different category of lowlife.

Now, I might be wildly wrong, but to me he was the only scary one on the whole show. The rest were your usual parade of dropouts from society and to be honest I'm happy for them to get (just enough) benefits to keep them in front of daytime TV instead of alongside me at work.

Edit: of course the main problem with benefit culture is, as others say, nothing to do with this often unpleasant but small minority of claimants. The big issue is that private corporations are being subsidised by the taxpayer, via low pay and top-up benefits, to increase shareholder profits. This kind of "hidden" degrading of society is everywhere now, including the way BTL mortgages are subsidised by the taxpayer. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
 
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i think its disgusting, just pure laziness and bone idle, i noticed a lot of designer cloths on them, but yet they struggle to get through?

instead, stop standing on your door step watching everybody else and get in the local industrial estate/town centre every day and keep asking for jobs.

local council etc, even volunteer, sometimes you get a job out of it, i think they do it because they have enough to live, thats all they need so they dont bother doing anything else, i think this benefit cut is good, force these lazy people to get out there and work for a living like most of us do! i mean £1500 from benefits? ffs!

just goes to show what the tax i pay goes towards. really annoys me!
 
Haggisman said:
To be fair to him, at least he was a) making an effort to actually sort himself out, b) doing it legally, c) doing it in a way which would potentially help out others in similar situations.

The rest of them on the other hand...
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at best he means well and was sort of making an effort (albeit a misplaced one) - in reality he should go and get an actual job

re: b) and c) he's not 'doing it legally' and its not of any real benefit to them even if they think it is

firstly its unlikely he's declaring any income from it, secondly there is no way that selling detergent, other chemicals in unmarked cups and carrying it about/storing it along side little cups with opened food products, tea bags etc... is in any way legal

lastly - he's not doing them any favours at all... buying a load of products from the pound shop, dividing each one up amongst several cups and selling them on at a ridiculous mark up is just going to cost these guys even more in the long run....

its just a small scale version of the retailers who will sell this same demographic LCD TVs for 'a few pounds a week' which results in them paying for the thing five times over...
 
Vanquish-Storm said:
The budget for benefits for unemployed people is little over 2.5% of the total benefits budget but then these people will also be claiming housing benefit, income support, council tax... some will be claiming child benefit themselves which brings it up to about 30% of the budget.

Benefits for the elderly take up 40+% of the budget...
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The difference is that the elderly, as a whole, have contributed significant amounts of income tax and national insurance payments.

Long term benefits claimants of working age are very much a net drain.
 
Andrew_McP said:
Edit: of course the main problem with benefit culture is, as others say, nothing to do with this often unpleasant but small minority of claimants. The big issue is that private corporations are being subsidised by the taxpayer, via low pay and top-up benefits, to increase shareholder profits. This kind of "hidden" degrading of society is everywhere now, including the way BTL mortgages are subsidised by the taxpayer. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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Whilst I haven't researched it thoroughly, I would imagine that seeing there's been a massive bank bailout, BTL mortgages are being subsidised and enabled by the taxpayer, which is a massive injustice and shouldn't be happening in a fair society.

Rgds
 
I just took a look at James Turner Street on google maps, you can see a couple of the girls from the documentary. The anorexic red head sitting in front of the house, and that other girl 'black dee' in white dress waving. Rotate left, and the house with the brown wooden frame window is white dee's house. What a horrific place to live.

http://goo.gl/maps/aHuiV
 
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