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Best Bang for Buck! Nvidia or AMD now..

Are you forgetting CS?????
Asus although make excellent products can be a pita with returns/rma's EVGA on the other hand are in a league of there own. I know nothing regarding cooler problems but that would never put me off in buying possibly IMO the best branded gpu's on the market.

You'd buy a card that was 10db louder and hotter just because they have better CS? I sure wouldn't, though maybe we have different priorities.
 
It's one thing not having a problem with some noise, but to buy a card with a clear design flaw is not necessary when there are cards which do a great job like the MSI, Gigabyte or Inno3d ones.
 
You'd buy a card that was 10db louder and hotter just because they have better CS? I sure wouldn't, though maybe we have different priorities.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest as I watercool em!!!

Maybe your initial statement should have included the facts on the particular model and not condem the entire range.
Besides many people still bought the latest AMD cards and rightly so as they offered great value compared to there nvidia counterparts even though you were greeted with black screens and had to play games stark ******* naked due to the heat.
 
290 was the champ of bang for bucks at around £300 or less for the pass 9-10 months. However Nvidia has just launched the GTX970 which offer on par performance with the 290 and lower power consumption and temp...and most amazingly for the first time in a long time, the card offers similar bang for bucks as the AMD's equivalent.

So between the 970 and the 290 at similar price, there no reason to not go for the 970 over the 290...only if AMD's dropping the 290 down to £200 price point it may worth considering.
 
Its finally time to completely upgrade my rig. I'm going to build it around the GPU as I use my PC for gaming.
I dont need to buy straight away but in hte next 3 months or so and I would want to spend no mre than about £800.

Biggest choice is Nvidia or AMD?
As you have SSD + PSU + Case

Also as title says best bang for buck (keeping it under £800 limit & not trying to spend £800)

MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 £279.95
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) £179.99
Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) Motherboard - SLI board £100 or non-SLI £80
TeamGroup DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz 8GB (2x4GB) £59.99

TOTAL: around £600 - £650

You could then get whatever cpu cooler you want

The GPU is new so you get warranty with OcUK (also power wise you could potentially go SLI in future with your 850w PSU)

I'm in a similar position with regards to upgrading GPU (I have a HD 5770) and am not sure which GTX 970 to get at the moment
 
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I do love thefogo's one man crusade against EVGA

Ok we can make it a bit more fair, I will join his side of the argument.

The problems with the EVGA ACX ver 1 cooler seems to have been fairly well covered, so there is no need to go back over it, other than to say it doesn't suddenly make the EVGA 970 a bad card just that it is not necessarily as good as the competition.

Now the ACX ver 2 cooler, well I've not heard or even seen one, but I did read the review on Anandtech on the EVGA 970 FTW card

With that said, I feel like EVGA does walk away from this launch with one vulnerability exposed, and that is the ACX 2.0 cooler. EVGA’s amazing cooling performance is undercut by their middle of the road noise performance, which although is still very good in light of GTX 970’s overall gaming performance, it is not as good as what we have seen other open air coolers do in the past. It’s by no means a deal breaker – especially given all of EVGA’s other advantages – but given the kind of quiet cooling possibilities that a 145W GPU should enable, EVGA is not exploiting it as well as they could.

Go read the review and make up your own mind.

In my opinion it seems that they haven't made the best job of the new revision of the cooler, which of course does not make it a bad card. But there are better alternatives.
 
The EVGA 970 in that Anandtech review looks terrible. It can't keep to max boost clocks while gaming even at stock. I just tested my MSI card in BF4 with Nvidia Inspector running and it kept to max boost 1312MHz the whole time. Then I overclocked it to 1512MHz and it kept that clock the whole time.
 
I wouldn't recommend the evga cards.

I was only talking about the particular card mentioned.

You did say cards. You didn't specify cards with ACX coolers. Saying I wouldn't recommend THAT EVGA card would've been clearer too.
It might seem like a little detail, but might have saved half the 'discussion' in this thread.
 
mortals has got it... ta

MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 £279.95
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) £179.99
Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) Motherboard - SLI board £100 or non-SLI £80
TeamGroup DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz 8GB (2x4GB) £59.99
 
Went for the MSI after doing a bit of research....
Order Placed





Date and time of order: 29 Sep, 14, 9:35 am





Shipping service: DPD Next Day Parcel (Mon-Fri)
Shipping Cost: £9.00



Product Name

Price

Qty

Line Total

MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £233.29 1 £233.29

Order Cost Summary

Sub Total: £233.29
Shipping: £9.00
Total Vat: £48.46
Total inc Vat: £290.75
 
Cant see a CPU upgrade giving enough real world difference over what he already has.

I would spend the £800 on a new monitor and graphics card.
 
You have already grabbed a 970 which is a fantastic card.

What resolution do you play at?

If you are a FPS gamer then your going to want high frames for a smooth gaming experience.

The 4690k (fine for gaming with a single card) would knock the socks off your 750, especially with an overclock to say 4.5 - 4.7GHz

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/109?vs=1261

That shows the performance difference between the CPUs. No game tests but gives you an idea of where CPUs stand at the moment

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Asus Maximus VII Ranger Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £129.95
1 x G.Skill TridentX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2400C10D-8GTX) £79.99
Total : £389.53 (includes shipping : £8.00).



Select your CPU cooler and that will do you fine.
 
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