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best intel gaming processor?

People that value the Vista index score should be shot. I'm not gonna waste one more word on this thread.
 
Comon people lets not murder him he didnt do anything wrong!!

What you people need to take into account is that although a E8400 will run at E8600 speeds the 8600 will run even faster again when overclocked so your paying for a better quality overclockable chip.

Also the i7 DOES beat the Exxxx in games but only when paired with at least 2 high powered graphics cards as there is even a massive bottleneck with say a gtx 280.

The great thing about the i7 that the Exxxxs cant do as well is utilising sli and crossfire to its full potwntial and not causing a cpu bottleneck when using 2 gpus. For example gtx 280 sli with an i7 can give double the performance than just 1 gtx 280 so you get all you pay for.
 
I've just read through the entire thread. Some of you are being a little harsh and I don't believe had read it all through.
He has admitted that overclocking might be a good idea and said he'd looked into it briefly.

I don't think you lot flaming him is going to help in anyway...

My advice to you would be have a read about overclocking. Ask for help - most people here are more than happy to try and help anyone. If you feel comfortable giving it a go then good for you, I hope you learn what we already know that overclocking can be a fantastic way of saving money and getting more out of your CPU.

I'd try overclocking and see what you can do out of it. If you aren't happy or can't do it then go ahead and replace your CPU, (if you kill it you were planning on replace it anyway) Then if you aren't happy you can replace it, or you find yourself saving a LOT of money and a good gaming CPU...

Best of luck
 
Haven't read the thread but the best gaming CPU was the 486DX2 66mhz played doom2, and Tie fighter with all the bell and whistles set to max.
 
engstrom0304 said:
What you people need to take into account is that although a E8400 will run at E8600 speeds the 8600 will run even faster again when overclocked so your paying for a better quality overclockable chip.
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That's not strictly true. A E8600, despite costing a lot more than a E8400, will rarely clock any better than one. Most of these Wolfdales top out at anything between 4.2 and 4.7Ghz no matter if it is a E8400, E8500 or a E8600. That's the whole point of overclocking. You don't go out and buy the most expensive cpu. You buy the lesser versions and clock them to speeds of the more expensive versions and beyond. There is no advantage to buying a E8600 over a E8400.
 
mythrandyr said:
Everything that i have seen on the internet seems to determin what i have already been told umpteen times, and i appologise for my ignorance in past posts, and that is that faster dual cores are much better for gaming than multi core processor at the minute because, currently, their is not much multicore support for gaming, you're posts have helped me to understand that.
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It looks like developers have a very hard time coding games for full multi-core support. I can't see it suddenly changing overnight and I presume quad-core processors still make up only a minority of the market.
 
Duke said:
Only read the first page, so sorry if its already been pointed out -

1. Ignore Vista scores. They are for putting on the back of game boxes and are not an accurate measurement of raw CPU power.

2. If you know what you are doing (i.e. have read up on it) then overclocking is fine. Every CPU is different, they are not made to be a certain speed, so some can be clocked higher on stock voltage for example, which will not hard the CPU at all. Even a slight bump on voltage will give a lot of head room on overclocking.

I have OC'd a lot of CPUs over the years (starting with the Pentium 1 (150MHz)) and have not killed a chip in that time. My current E8400 3GHz has a small overclock and is running 3.4GHz on stock voltages.

Any Qs, just ask :)
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I got scared away from overclocking when my PC refused to boot (no video output) after an overclock despite trying the triple reset trick (wipes the CMOS apparently). I eventually got it running by promising the "dead" system I wouldn't ever overclock it again if it booted. Then by using the clear CMOS jumper, it worked fine again. Due to this experience though I can see why the OP would be wary of overclocking.

DFI DK X48 motherboard by the way. Good board for anything, but overclocking...
 
If you're worried about the ethics of overclocking, then worry about the ethics of Intel / AMD knocking out identical pieces of silicon, and charging hundreds of pounds for a different multiplier. Once a manufacturer has their fabrication process 100% sorted for a given processor, do you think they make some slightly more carp than others? No, they make exactly the same chip and sell some for £200.00 and some for £400.00, because it's cheaper for them to do it, the only difference being multiplier and in some cases FSB. Play them at their own game and run the thing at its best!
 
this thread was quite funny reading. OP respect and all but you have messed up logic, i mean really messed up with regards to cpu overclocking. Half of your arguements dont even make sense. You dont want to overclock cos it might damage the lifespan of your cpu but your willing to shell out a ton of money at xmas for a i7 rig.. wtf man lol do you realize how stupid that sounds. Stop being stubborn and listen to what people are telling you, some of these people are very professional at all this sort of stuff. You should really try not to argue and just listen.. maybe even give it a try YOU NEVER KNOW you might shock yourself with a new ability.

i got a heavily overclocked E6600 with way too many volts.. but its fast, cool and stable, boom job done. Im actually looking to buy a E8500 not because i want a better stock speed but because i want to overclock the nuts off it.

theres no ethics to overclocking lol.. just abit of common sense and logic will take you far. AT THE END OF THE DAY... we do this because we get faster pc's at no to little cost (cooling).

i wonder what your opinion of watercooling is :D

Stop reinforcing your ignorance, we are trying to help you.
 
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Tbh its a crime not to oveclock that cpu! you sure have a funny way of looking at things I can't get my head round the way that you think, who doesn't want something for free???. Why waste a shed load of money on a new system that you don't need just for the sake of overclocking that cpu which is a very very simple task and will give you the results you desire.
 
mr griffin said:
Tbh its a crime not to oveclock that cpu! you sure have a funny way of looking at things I can't get my head round the way that you think, who doesn't want something for free???. Why waste a shed load of money on a new system that you don't need just for the sake of overclocking that cpu which is a very very simple task and will give you the results you desire.
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Because, my friend he is talking out of his ******** and thinking with his stool.
 
Geffen said:
Haven't read the thread but the best gaming CPU was the 486DX2 66mhz played doom2, and Tie fighter with all the bell and whistles set to max.
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Cool I'm gonna ditch my E6300 and get one of these bad boys :D :p

Oh and back on topic, I agree E8500 probably best gaming cpu at the moment although whether its the best affordable intel cpu should be debated. I picked up my E6300 with a motherboard about 6 months ago for £100. Now that was a bargain and is currently running at 2.8Ghz have had it at 3.2Ghz but need to sort my cooling out before running it permanently at that speed.
 
From what I can gather, reading magazines and such, the Intel E8400 is the chip to go for, a certain magazine even mentions it being better for gaming than the i7 920 (apparently due to the E8*** series very high frequency?).

From what I have read it is about the best bang for buck chip going at the moment?, though no doubt by the end of this year it will be something else.

Anyway, a little bit of playing with bios has upped my Windows 7 Eperience Index from 5.9 to 6.0, (Ram and CPU went up from 5.9 to 6.2). I thought the whole reason for overclocking was "only" to reach the heady heights of a straight row of 7.9's!! :cool:

Windows Experience Index rules, much more fun than all those fancy graphs n downloads, those guys take it too far LOL ;)

On the other hand, I feel it a bit wrong to push OC'ing at the original OP. The reason those higher performance chips exist is for that sort of market, plenty of people would rather have the CPU that runs higher stock than attempt to play with Bios, which will give variable results with variable risks with variable differences from variable motherboards and variable combinations of hardware, with variable headaches and variable dubious advice along with good advice.

I could do a pin mod on my E5200 and attempt to OC and run it at similar settings to the E7400, but if I required that performance and wanted no risk or inconvenience and had the money, why not just by a new CPU? Many people would rather not build their own purchase, be it a bicycle, computer, or bread bin, plenty would not want to attempt anything "technical"

I myself think I would have probably done some damage or had more stress if it was not for my current motherbards ability to re-boot into bios after me messing up settings, some of which were advised by members on forums to try. I have at least learnt my mobo IS as I was made aware a poor overclocker, shame I am still a little unsure why one type of old ram allows me to OC my CPU more than with modern ram.

I also bought my HIS AGP card due to it being pre overclocked as at the time I wanted the best AGP card regardless, and did not want to OC a cheaper one and run into any stability issues.

:)
 
gurusan said:
"ethics of overclocking"? :confused:
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i have no ethics so thats me safe :D

i think the Q9550 is a great chip if you already have a SKT775 board that is capable of running it (And cash). but for the price you are probably best getting the E8400 as its nearly £100 cheaper and a loverly chip

I cant comment on the I7's though
 
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