What flavour would people recommend should I decide to go for a 970?
Lots of brands out there, just wondered if it makes much of a difference?
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Best Nvidia card for WoW
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What flavour would people recommend should I decide to go for a 970?
Lots of brands out there, just wondered if it makes much of a difference?
I personally prefer EVGA, you get a free 5 year warranty with them as well.
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Just one thing I want to add to this:
It might be CPU related. I play WoW, raiding 25+ people HC and 20 man Mythic. I have FPS issues in some parts of raids with 20+ people raiding. Especially on fights in tight enclosed spaces. My step up from a GTX 670 to a GTX 970 hasn't given me much on ultra settings, or indeed on fair/good settings.
I run the game at ultra outside of raids, and fair/good inside. My FPS in raids can be really bad (mid 20s, which doesn't feel smooth) in high intensity fights. WoW can be intensive. People just don't like to admit it. Guys in my guild have 4790ks and 980s, and seem to have way better performance in raids than I get on my i7-920.
Also showing my support for EVGA. And if you don't like your 970, you can use the step-up program. The 5 year warranty (up from 3) is a massive bonus currently too.
It might be CPU related. I play WoW, raiding 25+ people HC and 20 man Mythic. I have FPS issues in some parts of raids with 20+ people raiding. Especially on fights in tight enclosed spaces. My step up from a GTX 670 to a GTX 970 hasn't given me much on ultra settings, or indeed on fair/good settings.
I run the game at ultra outside of raids, and fair/good inside. My FPS in raids can be really bad (mid 20s, which doesn't feel smooth) in high intensity fights. WoW can be intensive. People just don't like to admit it. Guys in my guild have 4790ks and 980s, and seem to have way better performance in raids than I get on my i7-920.
Also showing my support for EVGA. And if you don't like your 970, you can use the step-up program. The 5 year warranty (up from 3) is a massive bonus currently too.
Evga have recently earned themselves a lot of respect by putting their customers first. However if your budget is pushed, just get the cheapest big name card you can find.
That would be either addon problems or your CPU, have you tried overclocking it?
(I have a GTX970 in one of my rigs and it runs WoW at 2560x1080 with ultra everything and never drops below 40s even in the most demanding heroic/mythic raid encounters).
Absolutely CPU related. WoW loves clockspeed in high intensity fights. Drop your shadows down 1 notch from Ultra to Very Good. The difference in minimal for image quality but you should get around a 25% fps boost.
I also echo people saying that nVidia is the best for WoW. It is, there is no denying it. There are still issues with AMD if for instance you want to run multi-monitor. With AMD Eyefinity you can't run WoW fullscreen and have to run it windowed-fullscreen. With nVidia NVSurround, no such restriction exists. Windowed-fullscreen is about a 20% fps penalty too so no small matter. This was the reason I switched to Nvidia after being a long time AMD user.
Have to admit this one grabbed me eye.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-010-GX
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-010-GX
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CPU is overclocked to 4GHz. And I run very minimum addons. It's not an addon issue. I will check again, but I'm fairly certain it's not addons. The 970 is not the issue. Just wanted to state to the OP that whilst GPU is important, CPU plays a big role in WoW, despite people saying it's not a problem.
Looks good. KitGuru must have and a good price. I'd still personally go EVGA, but that's just me being picky
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If you can push that budget, then yea that would be a good one to go for.
As Ubersonic stated:
'As for your friends they were lucky, simple as, many AMD users don't have issues but most people who have issues are AMD users. Back in MoP The were widely documented issues with the HD7900 series in WoW causing system lockups (sound would continue working but system would become unresponsive) which took AMD over a year to fix (and to this day they have never acknowledged the issue).'
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I know another mate who had an HD6950 which he replaced with an R9 280X who plays BOTH WoW and D3(but I have not played with) who said he no problems with it either.
So looking at what my mates and I had:
1.) I ran WoW and D3 on both an HD5850 and GTX660 and had no problems
2.)Mate an HD6870 which he broke and I found a good deal on a GTX650TI Boost 2GB for him and he had no problems with either in WoW and D3
3.)Another mate had an HD5770 which was replaced by an R9 280 and has had no problems with either in both games
4.)Mate had an HD5850 which was replaced by an HD7870XT and has had no problems with either
6,)Other mate had an HD4830 which was replaced by an HD7850 and no problems with either.
All of them have been playing for years.
Yes Nvidia does run it a bit better in pure framerates,but not enough from what I say to make it as much a difference as the CPU does.
But hey the consensus is that they MUST be having problems though right??
He has no issue.
Neither does that person.
None of them have been lucky - they installed their cards,installed the drivers and played the game.
Ubersonic is still bitter about some issue he had years ago with his card,so meh. Just because he had issues everyone else who uses AMD cards for Blizzard games must instantly have issues too.
I bet if it were a Nvidia card having issues,people would not be saying "upgrade to AMD" but trying to suggest software fixes or other fixes!
Looking at the people in their guilds,I see a mixture of people with AMD and Nvidia cards and I don't see anyone of them having issues.
So at the moment you don't even say what issues you have,let alone what OTHER hardware you are using.
He hits right on the head.
EVERY one of my mates and people in their guilds they have been in have benefited more from CPU upgrades than anything else.
Even though WoD is more GPU focussed than before,WoW really taxes only two threads(and part of a third one).
Its the same with games like PS2 which I play a lot - I am still CPU limited with a Xeon E3 1230 V2 set to 3.7GHZ,even when I drop the resolution - I still can get issues doing massive firefights.
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Errrr Cat but he already said that not everybody has issues on AMD? I'm not sure why you're arguing so vociferously against something which everybody knows.
But anyway, this guy IS having issues and it isn't exactly uncommon so if he wants to move to nVidia then so be it.
But anyway, this guy IS having issues and it isn't exactly uncommon so if he wants to move to nVidia then so be it.
whilst I can give my conjecture about AMD cards (the wife went from a HD 5850 to a 7950 and it plays wow well) , I could also give my own , personal tales of failure of an NVidia card (a GTX 480 died a heat related death whilst playing wow)
I do have 1 observation - my son went from a HD 5830 to a GTX 460 , and his wow experience improved.
OP if you want to sell your 7950 and get a GTX 7xx or 9xx then go for it , it might solve your problem
I do have 1 observation - my son went from a HD 5830 to a GTX 460 , and his wow experience improved.
OP if you want to sell your 7950 and get a GTX 7xx or 9xx then go for it , it might solve your problem
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Not one of you have asked WHAT issues he is having??
Not one of you have asked even WHAT other hardware he is having??
Isn't that what people should be asking first??
How does he not know its not some other general problem with the system or a software issue??
What if it is the card which is the problem and its dying and can be RMAed even??
I had issues with my GTX660 in SR3 and SR4 FFS when it would repeatedly crash and my HD5850 would not do the same(at least for SR3). Yet it appeared to be some sort of software conflict which I found a workaround for after looking around. People with NV cards seem to have had been affected worse.
So the advice on this forum would be to have bought an HD7870 since it tends to run a bit better on AMD hardware??
I have seen people chucking hardware at problems - first its the GPU. Then its the CPU,then they need an SSD,and so on. Within a few months they have a new PC.
Plus I have said WoW and D3 does run a bit better on Nvidia cards,but again thats only really comparing similar positioned hardware. CPUs are more clear cut though.
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OK so no response on the fact that you stated that ubersonic was saying that all AMD owners have issues when he said nothing of the sort.
Secondly, I can only assume (as have others) that as he is considering up/sidegrading at a cost to himself that he has taken steps to rule out any potential issues his end.
You're such an angry person when anybody disagrees with you. Calm down.
Secondly, I can only assume (as have others) that as he is considering up/sidegrading at a cost to himself that he has taken steps to rule out any potential issues his end.
You're such an angry person when anybody disagrees with you. Calm down.
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Anyway,the OP has seemed to have missed the £200 GTX970 cards which were in the clearance section.
That's actually changed in WoD with the new engine and will get better as Blizzard work to make the game more GPU bound.
Heres a SS from MoP of the game on an i7 loading up 3 of the 8 logical cores:
And here's another from WoD loading up all 6 cores on an AMD hex:
so basically your wow is crashing and the sound keeps playing?
dare I ask , which motherboard drivers , amd drivers , motherboard bios are you using?
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Like the fact he stated my mates were "lucky" - yet people like you are ignoring the fact plenty of people have had no issues with WoW with AMD hardware including EVERY person I know who runs the game. Seems to be a lot of lucky people I know them.
But on top of that instead of asking what problems the OP is having and what other hardware he has,you instantly jump to lets buy a new card. Funnily enough the same brand you have now.
That's actually changed in WoD with the new engine and will get better as Blizzard work to make the game more GPU bound.
Heres a SS from MoP of the game on an i7 loading up 3 of the 8 logical cores:
And here's another from WoD loading up all 6 cores on an AMD hex:
Yep,but its still limited in performance by a few primary threads.
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