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Jonnygrunge

Jonnygrunge

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Hi all, looking to stick a 512GB SSD in my system as a gaming drive, was about to pull the trigger on a EVO 840 drive, but the degradation faults on this drive I have read on-line are putting my off it.
Any suggestions?
 
idk tbh,i own one and a pro version and cant tell any degradation loss

the pro does feel the quickest out all the drives ive used but its overpriced tbh

think the crucial is a good alternative

everyones waiting on Samsung to fix the issue,think they are about to release a fw update to cure it
 
Cheers, I think I will still go-ahead and get the EVO 840, it only appears to affect month old data accessed through LBA, my theory is, that hopefully a firmware update will be out by then.
If not, defragging the drive, will move the data around, also temporary fixing the issue.
 
yh its upto you,alsong as Samsung can fix it

I would secure erase it first when you get it then install windows onto it

no drives are failing its just a slow down after a length of time and only shows up in benchmarks,day to day usage I cant tell any diff

no need to defrag ssd's only hdd's,
 
Why are people recommending the mx100? I don't know anything about ssd but have been thinking of getting one. Looking at the mx100 it seems to have slower write speeds than most of the others, although it is cheaper. Is there some reason why it is recommended?

thanks
 
its recommended because its cheaper and its crucial which are as reliable as samsung

and its not suffering from this degradation (in benchmarks) bug that the evo is atm

still waiting on a fix and if its possible to fix it,no one really knows yet

the slower writes on the crucial wont be noticeable at all imo
 
I've got an mx100 512 Gb. Very pleased with it for the price. Would recommend. I'd also imagine most people will be reading from their hard drives a lot more than writing to them so the slower write speeds may not be that noticeable.
 
freebooter said:
Why are people recommending the mx100? I don't know anything about ssd but have been thinking of getting one. Looking at the mx100 it seems to have slower write speeds than most of the others, although it is cheaper. Is there some reason why it is recommended?

thanks
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It was the cheapest reputable drive on the market at one point. I have one and it's awesome. I doubt you'd notice the performance difference between most drives TBH.
 
Jonnygrunge said:
Cheers, I think I will still go-ahead and get the EVO 840, it only appears to affect month old data accessed through LBA, my theory is, that hopefully a firmware update will be out by then.
If not, defragging the drive, will move the data around, also temporary fixing the issue.
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woah woah woah! i don't think the firmware going to do anything to the drives other than slowing down the "leakage". from what majority of the opinions out there, this is a nand gate level issue. the design of the TLC flash is flawed as they lose charge overtime making the file unreadable thus requiring a lot of ECC thus the read speed slow down. so a firmware can't fix that other than masking the problem.

absolutely wait to see if samsung can fix this. or get mx100. i wouldn't be surprised if there is a massive recall or 840 non pro/evo being discontinued especially they are being replaced by 850 series anyway
 
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pc-guy said:
woah woah woah! i don't think the firmware going to do anything to the drives other than slowing down the "leakage". from what majority of the opinions out there, this is a nand gate level issue. the design of the TLC flash is flawed as they lose charge overtime making the file unreadable thus requiring a lot of ECC thus the read speed slow down. so a firmware can't fix that other than masking the problem.

absolutely wait to see if samsung can fix this. or get mx100. i wouldn't be surprised if there is a massive recall or 840 non pro/evo being discontinued especially they are being replaced by 850 series anyway
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I think its a more complicated problem than that - I've thrashed the **** out of my 840 Evo and seeing no pattern to the slow downs - some recently written files are slow if reading out of the locations where they are on the SSD, some old data is fine, etc. and in some rudimentary testing often opening a handle to a file and using standard IO to read from them = full speed whereas trying to directly read the raw block data = slow.

Likewise no pattern to using windows to copy files - some older files are fine others really slow and vice versa for newer ones.

The biggest uniform patch of slowdown on mine is where the big lump files for Wolfenstein's streaming resources are which I relatively recently installed.
 
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I think its a more complicated problem than that - I've thrashed the **** out of my 840 Evo and seeing no pattern to the slow downs - some recently written files are slow if reading out of the locations where they are on the SSD, some old data is fine, etc. and in some rudimentary testing often opening a handle to a file and using standard IO to read from them = full speed whereas trying to directly read the raw block data = slow.

Likewise no pattern to using windows to copy files - some older files are fine others really slow and vice versa for newer ones.
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indeed it is complicated, but all the tests people have done can certainly rule out the controller being mischievous. as your own test seems to have shown the fact that you bash the crap out of it, there is no slow down...

I hope they can fix it for the sake of millions of people who has got this in their systems. imagine the pain of recall and replacement and the disaster for samsung...

but certainly right now i would buy the crucial MX100. it has similar real world performance as the evo and the IO consistency over smaller files is slightly better than EVO and certainly don't have this problem plus having some nice to have features that crucial seems to put on all their drives :) shame they don't do a 1TB version, but life isn't perfect.
 
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Somewhat regretting going for it now, though I see little real world manifestation of it so far - I usually buy Intel or Kingston SSDs.
 
Do you think 256GB will give you enough space for your OS and all your regular programs?
 
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