Best TV package that doesn't require a license?

Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
You've listed iPlayer so obviously your happy enough for the rest of us to fund your viewing
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And clearly it isn't the individual that's choosing...its BBC for allowing it?

How about you complain to BBC instead of people utilising the service they have agreed to provide?
 
Kermit said:
shareholders? The BBC is a public service corporation, ie owned by us all, no shareholders

But if you want to believe BBC1, 2, 3, 4, Radio 1-4, BBC website etc all with no crappy ads are all funded out of thin air, do so.

All those that think scrapping the license (and no altertive such as via income tax) need to visit countries were public service broadcasting doesn't exist to any meaningful degree and watch some of the drivel constantly put on if you can stand the adverts every 5-10mins and low production values.
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I'd quite happily pay a radio licence fee, if they were able to split that out.

I dislike pretty much all of the content that the BBC puts out, from the disintegrating quality of their News - which they used to be rightly lauded for - to the stupid amount they pay for Premier League Highlights, to the Soaps, Top Gear (whilst I realise its immensely profitable for them) and all the stupid reality shows they put on. Why would I want to contribute to funding for that?
 
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Kermit said:
shareholders? The BBC is a public service corporation, ie owned by us all, no shareholders

But if you want to believe BBC1, 2, 3, 4, Radio 1-4, BBC website etc all with no crappy ads are all funded out of thin air, do so.

All those that think scrapping the license (and no altertive such as via income tax) need to visit countries were public service broadcasting doesn't exist to any meaningful degree and watch some of the drivel constantly put on if you can stand the adverts every 5-10mins and low production values.
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I am from South Africa where the law is that if you own any device capable of receiving a signal, regardless of whether you watch it or not, you pay the license fee. You must see the quality broadcasting we get out there... :D
 
ubern00b said:
I am from South Africa where the law is that if you own any device capable of receiving a signal, regardless of whether you watch it or not, you pay the license fee. You must see the quality broadcasting we get out there... :D
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SABC3 was the best of a bad bunch, at least they showed a few of the good US dramas while I lived out there. The other two though...terrible. And they still had adverts as usual.
 
ubern00b said:
I am from South Africa where the law is that if you own any device capable of receiving a signal, regardless of whether you watch it or not, you pay the license fee. You must see the quality broadcasting we get out there... :D
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Thats ok, in a couple of year, the OP will be back to paying the 'license fee' again as it is going to become a mandatory payment for every household regardless of if they watch live TV or not.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31623659

The MPs suggested every household could pay a new compulsory levy instead.
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Kermit said:
shareholders? The BBC is a public service corporation, ie owned by us all, no shareholders

But if you want to believe BBC1, 2, 3, 4, Radio 1-4, BBC website etc all with no crappy ads are all funded out of thin air, do so.

All those that think scrapping the license (and no altertive such as via income tax) need to visit countries were public service broadcasting doesn't exist to any meaningful degree and watch some of the drivel constantly put on if you can stand the adverts every 5-10mins and low production values.
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Or how about the BBC becomes subscription only like Sky and then Beeb lovers like yourself can pay for it and I'll go back to just watching Netflix without paying a tax to watch my god damn television. :mad:
 
Kermit said:
ok, we'll make an exception for SA :p


There in lies the problem if you move away from a fairly universal fee to cover all their output to a selective one, then quality will no doubt drop like a stone. BBC TV content while obviously in the main not to your taste are constantly top of the ratings so the content must be overall good.
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Is the content overall good? Or is the rest just utter rubbish?
 
I also think it's terrible and disgusting really that BBC seem to be heading for a compulsory tax.
I haven't heard a good reason why they get this special treatment.
 
al4x said:
I also think it's terrible and disgusting really that BBC seem to be heading for a compulsory tax.
I haven't heard a good reason why they get this special treatment.
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Because the government decided that a PSB with universally available access to good quality news, educational programming and even some entertainment is good for the population as a whole?

The BBC never decided anything about how they were funded, the closest they did was say to the government they could organise collection of the fee with less wastage and at a lower cost than the Post office.

As for a good reason.
Consider the fact that there is currently some very serious suggestions that a major UK company used it's advertising spend to put pressure on a major UK newspaper to not follow up a story about it.

Or that the BBC is the only one of the current UK broadcasters to do consumer affairs and impartial advice on financial matters, even things like Top Gear wouldn't work on a commercial channel because there would be pressure from the advertisers to not put down their products (indeed apparently one of the foreign execs for one of the car companies tried to order his company to stop advertising on the BBC when TG slated one of their cars).
 
Dimple said:
Yeah, that's like asking every household to pay car tax even though they haven't got a car :D
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My taxes fund schools, but I have no kids.

My taxes fund benefits, but I have a job.

My taxes fund roads but I.... actually I do have a car, but what about those that don't?

Why shouldn't my taxes fund public sector broadcasting too?
 
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