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Best value CPU for single core performance?

It's a long story. The Cpu's will be supported but the bigger bios rom size will prevent you having issues will bios update file sizes which increase as they add later Cpu generational support. Basically some motherboard manufacturers have been cheaping out on bios rom sizes, meaning they have had to strip back later bios file contents to fit the 16MB rom size on some motherboards.

If it has 32MB which if it's the one I linked it should have, you shouldn't have any issues. Go over to the Ryzen 4000 series thread if you need more info.

This is a decent overview on the bios file size issues. Don't be scared just be informed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfTPLF8OKK4
 
Yeah, it's the one you linked, so looks like we're all good.

I was a bit nervous about straying from one of the more traditionally popular brands, but it looks like the ASRock really is the best of the budget bunch.

Thank you for the heads up.
 
I went for a decent x570 mobo and a stop gap CPU until the 4000 series comes out. Then I'll drop in a 12 core and that'll be me set for a few years.
 
Same as above. X570 Tachi with a 3600 and depending on what the 4000 series offers I may well upgrade to an 8 core or above.

Depends on bang for buck with me as I'm not a heavy gamer. Need a decent Gpu too but that won't be until next gen Nvidia or Amd.
 
It turned up an hour or so ago, I put it together and to my amazement, my existing windows install booted up no problem.

I played with RAM timings and enabled PBO.

Geekbench single core is ~120 higher than the 4690k but multicore is almost double.

I'm a little bit disappointed the single core jump wasn't bigger, but at least I'll be able to upgrade to a 4xxx chip fairly cheaply when they arrive.

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mikehhhhhhh said:
Geekbench single core is ~120 higher than the 4690k but multicore is almost double.

I'm a little bit disappointed the single core jump wasn't bigger, but at least I'll be able to upgrade to a 4xxx chip fairly cheaply when they arrive.
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Why would you be disappointed? I thought you knew that it wouldn't be much improvement in single threaded performance. Let's hope those extra cores smooth out those drops and stutters you get playing IRacing in VR; I'll be interested to know how you get on.
 
Battlefield 5, for example, is held back by 4 core 8 thread processors. The next gen consoles have 8 cores and 16 threads. AAA games will most certainly take advantage of 6 to 8 cores on pc simply due to the the new consoles being the new standard.
 
I was in a very similar position to the op but went 3300x + cheap B450, but then I've got three other PCs in the house that inherit the old tech from the main PC, so by the time anything stops getting used it's not worth selling.

Two of the PCs still have Q6600s :p. Still fine for light gaming and general usage with a cheeky SSD upgrade.

But anyway, if the brief is single core performance value, it has to right now be the 3300X.
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
It turned up an hour or so ago, I put it together and to my amazement, my existing windows install booted up no problem.

I played with RAM timings and enabled PBO.

Geekbench single core is ~120 higher than the 4690k but multicore is almost double.

I'm a little bit disappointed the single core jump wasn't bigger, but at least I'll be able to upgrade to a 4xxx chip fairly cheaply when they arrive.

RuUypSG.jpg
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Now activate CPPC on the bios :P
 
MartinPrince said:
Why would you be disappointed? I thought you knew that it wouldn't be much improvement in single threaded performance. Let's hope those extra cores smooth out those drops and stutters you get playing IRacing in VR; I'll be interested to know how you get on.
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I think it's disappointment, even though it was expected. I was tempted to return it and re-order a 9600k but ultimately decided that in the long term, having Zen3 as an upgrade path may be the better option.

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Now activate CPPC on the bios :p
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What does that do?
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
I think it's disappointment, even though it was expected. I was tempted to return it and re-order a 9600k but ultimately decided that in the long term, having Zen3 as an upgrade path may be the better option.
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So synthetic benchmarks are not showing much of a gain but how are your games reacting? You may find that the FPS may not increase massively but you may well get a much smoother operation overall.
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
I think it's disappointment, even though it was expected. I was tempted to return it and re-order a 9600k but ultimately decided that in the long term, having Zen3 as an upgrade path may be the better option.
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Agreed, that was your best option.
Have you done any tests with numbers to see exactly how they compare?
 
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Geekbench single core is ~120 higher than the 4690k but multicore is almost double.
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Just out of curisoity, what single / multi core numbers are you getting? , I'm asking as I'm pondering a new build to replace my 4790K but am struggling to see the value in replacing my board, CPU & RAM when tbh it still rocks pretty much everything I throw at it,especially O/C around 4.7 / 4.8 that said whilst reading this thread I've found myself running Geekbench and am now curious as to the numbers your getting. :)

I got 1144 Single and 4004 multi.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2179869

Almost regardless of the numbers though, running Geekbench said it should take 2 - 20 minutes to complete, mine finished in 2:21 which kind of tells me its quick enough for most needs regardless of the scores! :D
 
Scania said:
Just out of curisoity, what single / multi core numbers are you getting? , I'm asking as I'm pondering a new build to replace my 4790K but am struggling to see the value in replacing my board, CPU & RAM when tbh it still rocks pretty much everything I throw at it,especially O/C around 4.7 / 4.8 that said whilst reading this thread I've found myself running Geekbench and am now curious as to the numbers your getting. :)

I got 1144 Single and 4004 multi.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2179869

Almost regardless of the numbers though, running Geekbench said it should take 2 - 20 minutes to complete, mine finished in 2:21 which kind of tells me its quick enough for most needs regardless of the scores! :D
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Impressive numbers.

I can’t get over 4.6 on my 4690k, so I had 1100 single and 3800 multi.

I get 1250 single, 7000 multi on the new setup.

So definitely not worth it on single core benchmark figures alone, but I suspect the improvement will be greater than figures suggest.
 
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I'm yet to test the reason why I actually upgraded. Need to jump in a race in iRacing to test that out, I shall do it at some point over the weekend.
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Please report back when you do. Single threaded benchmarks can distort what actually happens in many games. They tend to distort them in favour of Ryzen from my experience so it will be interesting to see what yours is.
 
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