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Best value CPU for single core performance?

MartinPrince said:
Please report back when you do. Single threaded benchmarks can distort what actually happens in many games. They tend to distort them in favour of Ryzen from my experience so it will be interesting to see what yours is.
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Distort in favour of Ryzen, really? To clarify, you're saying benchmarks make the Ryzen look better at single threaded workloads than it really is?

I really hope not :eek:
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
Impressive numbers.

I can’t get over 4.6 on my 4690k, so I had 1100 single and 3800 multi.

I get 1250 single, 7000 multi on the new setup.

So definitely not worth it on single core benchmark figures alone, but I suspect the improvement will be greater than figures suggest.
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Interesting, cheers for the reply, oh and the impressive numbers are by luck more than judgement I can assure you! - the single core improvement (as arguably expected) is nothing to get excited about, the multi on the other hand looks very good,I've had just shy of 4800 @ 4.9Ghz but I'm not entirely convinced its fully stable at that clock, some games run, some don't....

Please come back once you've tried a few games, I'd be interested if the difference from the multi core improved score is perceptible or not, as I say, I'm hovering on pulling the trigger on a new cpu/board/ram but really don't see the value in doing so.

I am however, looking for reasons to do so! :o :D
 
I went 4570K to 7740X a couple year ago and gained around 30%. I run iRacing on triples, not VR, but it helped minimum frame rates. Not much to be gained by a further CPU upgrade given iRacing only fully uses a couple of cores.

A Ryzen 3600 should have good performance as long as it's hitting the boost clocks - roughly equivalent to 4.5GHz worth of Intel.
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
So glad I spent £50 on an X570 now AMD has announced support is coming to 400 series boards after all.
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support should have quotations around it cause that's what it is, nothing is for free many 400 boards will need havily modified biosses to accomodate ryzen 4000
 
Yeah, it's not ready to go. They announced it to stop the backlash, they'll thrash out the details to come later when they've got their head around the problem.
 
3300X is good value for money but I think the 3600/x will last longer since we are seeing more and more cores being utilized in modern titles. The 3600 could be found for cheap if you look for deals meanwhile the 3300X is new and short of supply thus I think the 3600 is more favorable due to lower current prices compared to MSRP. Sometimes you have to think about the long run rather than losing 1-10% single core performance in the short run. For example, I purchased my 5820K i overlooked the 6700k despite it being marginally better in 90% of the titles due its newer architecture and superior clock for clock IPC. Fast forward to 2020, my CPU is performing significantly better in modern titles thanks to the 6 cores 12 threads vs 6700K's 4 cores 8 threads. As a rough guideline if you want good value long running gaming system you want to swap out CPU RAM Mobo once for every 2 GPU swaps, to do this opting for extra cores than current requirements helps prolong the systems life. With AMD you are lucky since there is viable upgrade paths, with Intel we are getting new motherboards for new CPUs most of the time or the next gen CPUs are marginally better. With AMD you can go from small number of cores to 12 cores 24 threads in one cheap motherboard (b450 motherboard).
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
Distort in favour of Ryzen, really? To clarify, you're saying benchmarks make the Ryzen look better at single threaded workloads than it really is?

I really hope not :eek:
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From my experience it can lead to distorted views in favour of Ryzen. For example in this thread here https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/amd-vs-intel-single-threading.18872467/page-2 Humbug was under the not unrealistic assumption that his 6 core/12 thread 3600 with PBO would be faster in Single Threaded tasks than my 8 core/8 thread o/c 9700k. The CinebenchR20 Single Thread score difference between mine and his was less than 10% which would help aid the assumption that they are quite close in non fully multi-threaded tasks but when we both ran tests on actual software that could not take advantage of all cores then the difference was ~36%.

The issue is that nowadays there is less and less software/games that only uses 1 or 2 threads though most still are not fully multithreaded and able to use all available threads so we fall somewhere in the middle. The popular benchmarks that I know of either test single thread or all threads, there is nothing in the middle ground where the majority of software/games seem to reside.
 
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