Beyerdynamic T70

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I see little to no mention of these on the forum! I currently want a new headset and the T70 + a clip on mic works out cheaper than the MMX 300 I'm considering, which provides an interesting choice.

Has anyone tried them? I have Beyer DT770 Pro's and think they are awesome, I assume the T70 is a notable step up? Obviously reviews will be consulted but I like to get feedback on here too.

I think paying £250 odd just to get the DT770 Pro's with a proper attached mic is a lot of money - not that I'm totally against it as I'm sure the mic is good and it's the convenience factor too. But, I fancy something new so thought I'd give the T70 a look.
 
£269 at a shop near me (professional audio place, so very much legit).

However I think the MMX 300 will provide a more elegant solution for what I want, so I might give them a miss. :(
 
That's a lot of money though, just to have the microphone attached to essentially same headphones you have already. If you were going to get an upgrade in sound quality as well, then fair enough; but the MMX300 are not to going be a great in difference. Certainly not to justify £250+. At least that's my opinion anyway.

Not sure what you are looking for. A headphone upgrade? A headset? or just a reason to spend some money? :p
 
Ideally, a headset that is at least as good as my DT 770's and preferably a similar sort of shape too. I agree it's a lot of cash for little to no sound upgrade.

You're a knowledgeable chap, will I notice a significant difference between the T70 and DT770 I have at the moment? I could pick up the clip-on mic to test it out, if it's good then the T70's would be a no-brainer I'm guessing?
 
Yes, I would say so, going on what I have read; but, the problem is that with so many varying tastes, when it comes to audio, one man's treasure can be another man's trash. You can take one pair of headphones and have very different opinions from two people. If the T70 were similar to the DT770 but improved, then it would be an easy decision, but the difference in bass will be enough to split opinions on them. Many a person has preferred cheaper lesser headphones because the cheaper pair, have more bass. Now I'm not suggesting this will be the case here, but when you are used to a certain sound signature, then move to headphones that are less bassy, any extra quality the more expensive pair might have, may mean very little, without that extra bass.

One thing that probably does make the T70 more of a tempting purchase, is that the price is very good indeed, when you consider most places sell them for £400+. If we were talking swapping to the T70 at £400+, then that makes the decision a little more considered. It's one thing to say a headphone of £400 is lacking in a certain area, but if they were £100+ less, that will change how they are viewed in comparison to similar priced headphones.

Best thing you can do is to look at as many comments as you can, preferably from people who have used many different headphones.
 
You're absolutely right. I'm sure I'd find them to be good, but I did try some AKG headphones, the K551's (K550's) and found them to lack bass compared to the Beyer DT770s. I'm not really into heavy bass, but I'd rather there was something in that department if possible. :p

My current headset that is old and knackered is a Sennheiser PC350, which I do like. I find the DT770s better, but there isn't a massive amount in it. I could just avoid spending £300 odd and get the newer PC360's, to try out an open headphone as I've never had one. The 360's are about £140 or so, which is less than half the cost of the MMX 300 (to me). Do you know much about them? People say they're arguably better than the Beyers...

If I didn't care about a microphone I'd get the T70's to try them out if nothing else, but unfortunately the clip-on mic solutions don't inspire much confidence. :(
 
Ah well, that you have tried some other headphones does help. It gives a better understanding of how the DT770 compares to others, from your own perspective. One of the comments was that the T70 was very similar in bass to the K550. At least, the T70 were much closer to the K550, than the DT770/990.
 
PC360 is one of the best headset there is. They are probably a better choice for competitive gaming, where positional sound is important. DT770/990 are more fun.
 
I think the PC360 at half the price of the MMX 300 could be the frontrunner then. I know for a fact I like the style as my PC350's are a similar shape and have always been very comfortable.

My one potential concern is that I've never had an open headphone before, but it sounds like something I'd certainly like, though you never can tell. Noise getting in and out isn't a big issue.
 
If you can grab a pair of PC360 for £140, then it would be a good buy. Ouch, just seen them on the jungle site for £180! They used to cost £130 at one point. Sennheiser are pretty good at charging more and making people still feel like they are getting a good deal. :p

PC350SE can be had for £140.
 
Do you think a fairly loud mechanical keyboard about a metre away would be annoying with the PC360's considering they're open headphones, or would such a noise be drowned out by any music, etc? From reading it seems there's absolutely no noise cancellation with them! :eek:
 
You'll probably hear it unless you have the volume very loud. I'm just trying my Goldring's, which are open headphones. What I consider to be normal listening levels, I can't hear my keyboard at all, but then it isn't a mechanical one. If I tap the edge of the keyboard with my fingernails, it sounds like a clicking sound. Sounds fairly close to how loud a mechanical keyboard is, going by a comparison video on Youtube. I can clearly hear that through the music. The volume would have to be uncomfortably loud for my me not to hear the clicking through the music. I just tried my Denon headphones as well, which are closed, and I can't really make out the clicking sound with normal listening volume.
 
Thanks, that probably wouldn't be ideal then! I've found the QPAD QH-1339's for £200, which is still a lot, but more bearable at least (they're identical to the MMX 300's as I'm sure you know).

Hm, I might get the 360's and try them, I'll think about it.
 
If you can return them under DSR, then why not. :) That's what it's there for, although many companies would have customers believe that they cannot do this. More hassle for them, and as we know a lot of companies are more interested in profit margins. ;) Hifi Headphones are very good in this regard, as they openly say the headphones can be returned if you aren't happy. DSR is different when it comes to earphone/IEM's, but then those aren't in consideration.
 
Incredibly the MMX/QH-1339 doesn't have a mute switch unless you use the horrible USB sound card, which is bizarre. What a stupid omission from something costing the best part of £300 most places.

Even with such a high budget there's nothing that is 'perfect', which is annoying!

I'm now researching the T70+SpeedLink mic and of course the PC 360's, which I do like the look of.

My sound card is the Xonar Xense which I'm lead to believe is a rather good one, so it should be able to get some good results from whatever I buy. It's very good with the DT770's and PC350s.
 
Onwards...

So the clip-on microphone seems fairly decent, meaning I can get away without buying an actual headset. So, without making a new thread... :p

My sound card is this as I mentioned earlier: Link

If I were to say, best all-round headphones with a £300~ budget, what would you recommend? By all-round I mean Music, Gaming, Movies, etc. Primary type of music is metal, but not limited to that.

This also assumes it'd be a notable improvement on my DT770's!

The T70's seem good, but I'm concerned by the polarised opinion when it comes to the bass, but these opinions are of course talking about it as a £400+ headphone, which for me it wouldn't be. A few I've noticed at the same shop are the DT 990's, 880's and Senn HD 600's, any of those much good? All around £200 as well.

Thanks again in advance Marsman. :p
 
HD600's won't be, at least not in this case. Don't get me wrong they are great headphones, but they are certainly not bassy. HD650 would be a better bet. For sure the HD650 will be better than the DT770, but they aren't as bassy. As always, preferences vary, so only you can say whether the HD650 have enough bass for you; which of course is something you can't know without listening to them.

DT990 are just an open version of the 770, so more of a sidestep. I think the 880 are semi-open IIRC, and are more balanced the the 770/990. They are more detailed, but probably not as much fun. 770/990 are generally recommended over the 880 when it comes to gaming and movies.
 
I'm not sure if I need much bass though, that's the thing, but I'd definitely prefer there to be some, rather than none.

I'm just looking now at the Sennheiser Momentum's and Sony MDR-1R, which both get excellent write ups and are perhaps better for a more 'general' sound that is still very good? From the reviews people seem to be fairly blown away by both...
 
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