Big Bike Thread

robj20 · 6 Feb 2013 at 14:57

Nice idea. A decent marker pen should do.

ichabod crane · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:14

Base setting/tune it is the same thing, it will arrive pre tuned by tft to his weight and bike and then he can fine tune it from there.

robj20 · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:16

I wonder if TFT change anything inside or are all adjustments made externally, i know they inspect it, but do they use shims and such inside?

Andelusion · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:19

robj20 said:
I wonder if TFT change anything inside or are all adjustments made externally, i know they inspect it, but do they use shims and such inside?

As far as I know, no they don't.

shadowcreaper · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:21

tudj said:
I've heard the rear mech hangers are made of cheese

Someone in their club had their Canyon come off the roof rack on the way home from Llandegla on Saturday, it survived that fully intact, lucky but pretty impressive considering we were going ~70mph.

I'm 6' 4 and have a Large, I couldn't decide between L and XL for ages, you seem to be in the same place between M and L.

lol, speaking of that.

Rode into a diesel spill on a corner going 24 mph, fell off the bike,skidding along ground.

Lots of road rash but my first thought wasnt "Am i ok?"
It was "nooooo not my carbon bike"

Luckly no damage but a lost bar end..

On the matter at hand though, im completely stuck on what size...i tried phoning them but they afk it seems, so will have to wait.

Like i said 19" rockhopper is perfect size, their large seems quite "long" though on the top tube so dont fancy being too reached out....

tudj · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:29

shadowcreaper said:
On the matter at hand though, im completely stuck on what size...i tried phoning them but they afk it seems, so will have to wait.

Like i said 19" rockhopper is perfect size, their large seems quite "long" though on the top tube so dont fancy being too reached out....

I'd go with whatever their sizing chart suggests, for everyone I know who has used that and bought one it has been correct.

It's 50/50 chance that it will be right and if it isn't I'm 99.99% sure they do a return within 30 days thing as they are a distance seller. It might cost an extra £30 to send the wrong size back but it is still staggering value overall.

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:31

robj20 said:
I wonder if TFT change anything inside or are all adjustments made externally, i know they inspect it, but do they use shims and such inside?

No, hence why I'm making the point of setting vs tune... see below:

ichabod crane said:
Base setting/tune it is the same thing, it will arrive pre tuned by tft to his weight and bike and then he can fine tune it from there.

No, tune is internal settings/ shimstack etc.
i.e: if you ask for an "E" tune Vivid or "Med" tune RP23... or ST06 for BOS stoy as examples.

These are not "tunable" by the unwashed public, whereas the CCDB has only external adjustments - settings.

We can however argue about semantics, where one can argue externally changing settings IS tuning, but for the sake of this discussion - there's no internal tuning.

robj20 · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:44

So im guessing TFT have just set the CC Nomad settings that can be found on there site, and roughly pressured it for my weight. Only thing missing is the Rockshox style % marks for easy sag settings.

Andelusion · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:47

To be honest I've not heard of anyone doing anything internally to a CCDB anyway as the amount of external settings is so great (even more so on the air model) that I can't imagine you not being able to get it to feel like anything you wanted!

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 15:52

robj20 said:
So im guessing TFT have just set the CC Nomad settings that can be found on there site, and roughly pressured it for my weight. Only thing missing is the Rockshox style % marks for easy sag settings.

Yes, but you should have a o-ring to measure your sag with.

Andelusion said:
To be honest I've not heard of anyone doing anything internally to a CCDB anyway as the amount of external settings is so great (even more so on the air model) that I can't imagine you not being able to get it to feel like anything you wanted!

Pay attention! You've not heard of anyone doing it, because it's not done by anyone

ichabod crane · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:11

Supercow said:
No, hence why I'm making the point of setting vs tune... see below:

No, tune is internal settings/ shimstack etc.
i.e: if you ask for an "E" tune Vivid or "Med" tune RP23... or ST06 for BOS stoy as examples.

These are not "tunable" by the unwashed public, whereas the CCDB has only external adjustments - settings.

We can however argue about semantics, where one can argue externally changing settings IS tuning, but for the sake of this discussion - there's no internal tuning.

You better get onto cane creek and point out this blunder in the definition of tuning to them http://www.canecreek.com/products/suspension/double-barrel/tuning-tips

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:14

ichabod crane said:
You better get onto cane creek and point out this blunder in the definition of tuning to them http://www.canecreek.com/products/suspension/double-barrel/tuning-tips

Supercow said:
We can however argue about semantics, where one can argue externally changing settings IS tuning, but for the sake of this discussion - there's no internal tuning.

Missed that bit?
It's because of their use of the word "tune", which lead people to believe that there's internal adjustments.

Dont believe me about no internal settingstuningadjustments?
I asked CC themselves:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Cane-Creek-Ask-Us-Anything.html (search for sup3rc0w under the comments, it's the second one that comes up)

ichabod crane · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:16

TUNING TIPS! One cannot simply tune a ccdb!!!

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:20

http://i.imgur.com/fnafe2E.png

edit. retina Mbp innit

petriodet · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:38

i'm going to need my reading glasses out for that could you post it a bit bigger please

neil_g · 6 Feb 2013 at 16:52

jesus christ on a bike, that doesnt fit on my 24" screen..

booyaka · 6 Feb 2013 at 17:00

my eyes are burning!!!! resize please!!!!

robj20 · 6 Feb 2013 at 17:13

Fits fine on my 40" screen, room for two side by side, lol.

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 17:26

Peasants, get some retina display in your lives

Supercow · 6 Feb 2013 at 18:57

Demo shan built, crappy iPhone pics incoming.