Big Bike Thread

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 12:42

I wouldn't get Deore brakes. They feel horrid. I would also get XT hubs over the Superstar hubs any day of the week. And I have otherwise branded Superstar hubs on the DH bike.

ichabod crane · 8 May 2011 at 12:49

weescott said:
I wouldn't get Deore brakes. They feel horrid. I would also get XT hubs over the Superstar hubs any day of the week. And I have otherwise branded Superstar hubs on the DH bike.

You have a negative bias to superstar because of one pedal

There EVO hub is very good and has convert-able axles too for future upgradability and the cartridge bearings are easily replaced. Id agree the Deores are not brilliant but neither are the Juciy 3/5's.

robj20 · 8 May 2011 at 13:58

Nothing wrong with superstar hubs, or there whole wheels.

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 14:36

I would get Juicy 3's above Deore and that's saying something. I never said there was anything wrong with Superstar hubs, like I said, I have them under another name on my DH bike. I just think they are very over rated.

ichabod crane · 8 May 2011 at 14:45

weescott said:
I just think they are very over rated.

Compared to what for the price?

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 14:50

Anything.

robj20 · 8 May 2011 at 15:01

I cant think of many hubs other than superstar and hope that allow you to run in all the different combos, never mind for that price. If there good enough for a DH team they cant be bad at all.

Richie · 8 May 2011 at 15:13

It was actually Avid ELiXIR 5 as opposed to the Juicys I was looking at - http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/BCAVEXIL5/avid-elixir-5-disc-brake

I can get them at roughly the same price as the Shimano ones by the time you include discs... Does that change anything at all?

Also - I know I mentioned money is tight but are the Gold RL Recons worth the extra 70 quid over the Silver TK's?

ichabod crane · 8 May 2011 at 15:19

Richie said:
It was actually Avid ELiXIR 5 as opposed to the Juicys I was looking at - http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/BCAVEXIL5/avid-elixir-5-disc-brake

I can get them at roughly the same price as the Shimano ones by the time you include discs... Does that change anything at all?

Also - I know I mentioned money is tight but are the Gold RL Recons worth the extra 70 quid over the Silver TK's?

I think they are just rebranded Juicys really same feel and performance, the Gold RL recons will be lighter and have a better damping control system *Motion Control*.

janesssssy · 8 May 2011 at 15:54

ichabod crane said:
I think they are just rebranded Juicys really same feel and performance, the Gold RL recons will be lighter and have a better damping control system *Motion Control*.

They are completely different. same performance and feel - maybe, but built differently.

ichabod crane · 8 May 2011 at 16:07

An avid is an avid

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 16:15

Today I are be mostly feeding my rubber fettish!

2011 Schwalbe Racing Ralph Tubeless Ready 2.1:

It's basically a Race King Supersonic but with side knobs for gripping in the corners. Claimed weight is 465g. My not so precise scales say 500g. About 40g more than the 2.0 RK SS. The RR was also much easier to mount on the rim thanks to the tubeless ready bead hook. First ride...soon

KnightStalker · 8 May 2011 at 16:16

Is it me or does that look rather ungrippy, i think im used to massive knobbly bits on my tires.

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 16:45

It's a pure XC race tyre. Massive knobbly bits just slow you down!

janesssssy · 8 May 2011 at 17:22

Ive now got the 2.25's. 2.1's are super sketchy! good luck.

edit - rather than taking the **** while on the internetz, Here's a question:

Where can I get a X0 carbon cage for my rear mech. Mine is broken and the chain keeps on rolling over the jockeywheel.

J273 · 8 May 2011 at 17:35

weescott said:
My tyre experience over the past 3 years:

2.5" Nevegal Single ply: Grippy but push them hard and they can wash out with no notice. Single ply might not be the most robust for DH

2.35" Nevegal Stick-E: Grippy but slow rolling, mud clearance isn't great

2.4" Continental Mountain King supersonic: Extremely grippy and very light, but also has a very thing side wall. Fast rolling.

2.2" Continental Mountain King supersonic, as above but more likely to get flats due to its small volume. Only good as a rear tyre. Like the 2.4" it measures up small. Don't run these if you ride on very rocky trails, or if you are a fatty.

2.2" & 2.4" Continental Mountain King UST - Not nearly as good as the Supersonic versions. 2.4" is...ok. 2.2" is poor. Avoid!

2.4" Continental Rubber Queen Black Chilli. AKA Trail King. Immensly grippy in all conditions, heavier than advertised. Real weight is 1000g. Slow rolling. Actually measures 2.4". Thick sidewalls for a single ply tyre. These are huuuge. Might not fit on some frames. I'll be taking these to the Alps this year.

2.0" Continental Race King 2.0" Supersonic. Extremely fast and light. low profile. Very sketchy on dry loose trails, like ski's in the mud/snow. Use wisely.

2.4" 2010 Nobby Nic UST. The best tyre I have used. Measure up as 2.4" too. A little heavy/slow, but not overly so.

2.2" 2011 Nobby Nic UST. Perfect match to the 2.4" for the rear.

...I have some 2.1" Racing Ralph's and the new Pacestar Nobby Nics to try out sometime soon too.

Hope this helps.

Im looking to get some Nobby nic 2.4 UST if i can find any or mountain kings 2.4's

Whats the benefits of running a 2.2 on the rear and 2.4 on the front?

Thanks

Richie · 8 May 2011 at 17:38

janesssssy said:
edit - rather than taking the **** while on the internetz, Here's a question:

Where can I get a X0 carbon cage for my rear mech. Mine is broken and the chain keeps on rolling over the jockeywheel.

Mebbe contact SRAM themselves giving them the part numbers from this here catalogue? - http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/2011 SRAM EXTDT Wheel Hub SPC_Rev A.1.pdf

Edit: looks like pages 21 or 22 dependant on your mech year

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 17:47

janesssssy said:
Ive now got the 2.25's. 2.1's are super sketchy! good luck.

edit - rather than taking the **** while on the internetz, Here's a question:

Where can I get a X0 carbon cage for my rear mech. Mine is broken and the chain keeps on rolling over the jockeywheel.

They can't be any less sketchy than the Race Kings

I take it you mean a mech plate? If so:

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/fl/fl_cycles_carbon_gear_mech.html

ichabod crane · 8 May 2011 at 17:48

janesssssy said:
Ive now got the 2.25's. 2.1's are super sketchy! good luck.

edit - rather than taking the **** while on the internetz, Here's a question:

Where can I get a X0 carbon cage for my rear mech. Mine is broken and the chain keeps on rolling over the jockeywheel.

If i recall they cost nearly as much as a new mech from SRAM.

weescott · 8 May 2011 at 17:52

J273 said:
Im looking to get some Nobby nic 2.4 UST if i can find any or mountain kings 2.4's

Whats the benefits of running a 2.2 on the rear and 2.4 on the front?

Thanks

http://www.nextdaytyres.co.uk/Tyres/Schwalbe/Nobby-Nic-2011.aspx

I also have the Tubeless ready 2.2 NN but the side wall is super thin and I'm scared to use it.

2.4 front for maximum grip. Good for really rocky trails like Laggan. You don't need as much grip at the rear as if it slides out you can control it. If the front slides out it can mean one tatty over the side!