Big Bike Thread

rhysduck · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:11

That OnOne looks lovely R0B.
But why are you not running Tubeless on your Flows? It's simple

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:17

rhysduck said:
That OnOne looks lovely R0B.
But why are you not running Tubeless on your Flows? It's simple

Well I haven't seriously looked into doing it yet I'll admit but I've heard people mention both positive and negatives with some saying its hardly worth it. Are you running tubeless? What would you say are the benefits, do they outweigh the negatives enough to warrant it?

rhysduck · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:28

R0B75 said:
Are you running tubeless?

Yeah, on my Flows too on my SS2.

What would you say are the benefits, do they outweigh the negatives enough to warrant it?

I think they do, one of the benefits it the weight saving. Whilst not much, it does give your wheels/tyres some better "rollability". I've never had to the worry about pinch flats and then potching with a tube in the dark, I've had a couple of small holes in my rear tyre and the Stans goop has sealed it up in no time. Are your rims taped ready?

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:33

rhysduck said:
Are your rims taped ready?

I don't know if they are but I doubt it. Soon as I got them I whacked tubes and tyres on, didn't give it another thought.

rhysduck · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:40

They'll have yellow rim tape on them if they are

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:47

rhysduck said:
They'll have yellow rim tape on them if they are

I'm pretty sure it had Superstar rim tape. I've just watched a video on notubes.com - I'd need to buy a kit and spend ages messing with them to make them tubeless!

Big Chris · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:51

What happens if you change tyres a lot? Do you have to clean out the gloop and replace it each time?

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 21:52

Big Chris said:
What happens if you change tyres a lot? Do you have to clean out the gloop and replace it each time?

That was one of the negatives

weescott · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:00

Even if you don't change tyres often you still have to replace the sealant every few months. Not the case with UST tyres that don't require sealant.....obviously.

Street · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:07

Can you use UST tyres with Stans rims? Or do you still have to use sealant?

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:07

I don't see how they stop punctures though. Am I missing something? :confused:

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:09

Street said:
Can you use UST tyres with Stans rims? Or do you still have to use sealant?

Apparently you can, just need yellow tape and valve.

Street · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:10

The Stans sealant will seal the hole with Stans rims, and I just assumed UST tyres were thicker! Might be wrong though!

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:13

Street said:
The Stans sealant will seal the hole with Stans rims, and I just assumed UST tyres were thicker! Might be wrong though!

So you don't use sealant with UST tyres, because they are thicker tyres? Surely this negates any potential weight saving?

Street · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:15

Yeh thats what I gathered from my research last week, UST doesn't give you much of a weight saving as the tyres are heavier.

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:20

Street said:
Yeh thats what I gathered from my research last week, UST doesn't give you much of a weight saving as the tyres are heavier.

...and because they are UST they don't need sealant, so if you do get a puncture you're screwed

So, its a toss up, do you go with UST or non UST tyres and have to mess about sealing them every so often.

Yep, definitely sounds like too much of a hassle for me. I'll just take a spare tube with me

weescott · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:21

Street said:
Can you use UST tyres with Stans rims? Or do you still have to use sealant?

It depends on the tyre/brand. Also, the UST standard can be attained by a porous tyre with sealant. Like the WTB UST tyres.

Personally I would have preffered UST to be sealant free. Tubeless is confusing enough.

R0B75 said:
...and because they are UST they don't need sealant, so if you do get a puncture you're screwed

Not true.

R0B75 · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:34

weescott said:
It depends on the tyre/brand. Also, the UST standard can be attained by a porous tyre with sealant. Like the WTB UST tyres.

Personally I would have preffered UST to be sealant free. Tubeless is confusing enough.

Not true.

How do you fix a punture without sealant on a tyre without any? You're right, tubeless is confusing....and expensive

Street · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:38

weescott said:
Personally I would have preffered UST to be sealant free. Tubeless is confusing enough.

Ah, so UST still uses sealant.. Didn't realise that!

rhysduck · 21 Jan 2012 at 22:38

The sealant stops the puncture by filling the hole.. Even on UST tyres (tyres that do not require sealing).