*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Thanks guys. I'm happy where I am especially as its sustainable and habitual, but thought after this amount of time now I may have landed on the golden numbers for cut/maintain/bulk. I suppose there is no accounting for water retention, muscle gain/loss and other variables. Ultimately though I suppose it comes down to a literal +/-200kcal or so daily to make a perceivable difference week on week weight wise against maintenance.
 
I'm pretty sure this will resonate with ya'll.. I was going to say "for the larger members" but seems it's more systemic amongst all of us.. (I'm skinny fat, which he mentions at one point) Just by way of our Western diet.
It's time that changed!

 
oHUTCHYo said:
Thanks guys. I'm happy where I am especially as its sustainable and habitual, but thought after this amount of time now I may have landed on the golden numbers for cut/maintain/bulk. I suppose there is no accounting for water retention, muscle gain/loss and other variables. Ultimately though I suppose it comes down to a literal +/-200kcal or so daily to make a perceivable difference week on week weight wise against maintenance.
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As tom-e said (I think) weigh daily and it may become more obvious but as I've already said. If you're already in your sweet spot.. STAY THERE. :)
 
Fuzz said:
I'm pretty sure this will resonate with ya'll.. I was going to say "for the larger members" but seems it's more systemic amongst all of us.. (I'm skinny fat, which he mentions at one point) Just by way of our Western diet.
It's time that changed!

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Why do people make thumbnails like that? It instantly tells me not to bother watching it?
 
Maintained 89.9kg today. I think if I want to maintain anywhere close to where I am now I’ll be calorie counting. Just not feasible to up the gym work at the moment. Got a beach holiday at the end of May, so will continue on the weight loss calories until then and re-assess. Very pleased with progress, but tantalisingly close to getting some abdominal definition (nowhere near six pack, don’t worry!!) so must keep up the hard work!
 
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Fitness podcast 101 - clickbait thumb, prattle on for an hour discussing something that could be read in an article in 5 minutes - revenue!
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Or you could be less bigoted and read his No1 best seller in cardio vascular medicine book
no skin off my nose if you don't want to watch it.

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Fuzz said:
Or you could be less bigoted and read his No1 best seller in cardio vascular medicine book
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It's a pity that position in best seller lists has so little to do with the scientific merit of these kinds of books.

Also, since you like longform YouTube videos on this stuff, I recommend the excellent Nutrition Made Simple's video discussion with Dr. Ovadia:

 
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Fuzz said:
Or you could be less bigoted and read his No1 best seller in cardio vascular medicine book
no skin off my nose if you don't want to watch it.
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How is it bigoted that i'd prefer to read the same information in a concise written article rather than listen to people chatting away on a podcast feigning surprise at all the revelations?

I'm not dismissing his information in any way, you're very defensive - we had this before when I mentioned your post and run videos in this very thread.

It's great you have lots of free time to listen to podcast after podcast - more power to you, however you're adding little of value here adding videos with hideous clickbait thumbs and a sentence or two of similar clickbait comments.
 
If you're not dismissing or dismissive of it, why do you feel the need to comment on something you're not prepared to watch.
It seems like you're more intent on poo pooing it rather than finding the time to listen to it, that's why I might come off as defensive.
The thread is here to discuss things in the weightloss and health genre that might help people to lead a better, healthier life and along some of you come.. "ahh look at this junk headline" " Prattling fitness podcaster LULULUL" "has no scientific merit". when none of that has any actual relevance if you actually(had the time) to watch it.
Lastly, not everything can be condensed down into a sound bite for a 1 minute tiktok level consumption. Life is complex and so are we. The more we take time to learn stuff the better we'll all be.
 
Fuzz said:
If you're not dismissing or dismissive of it, why do you feel the need to comment on something you're not prepared to watch.
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Sorry Fuzz but im calling you out here, @SixTwoSix was merely responding to Andy who asked why do people make such clickbait thumbnails, and you've taken his response to mean that he doesnt agree with whats been said in that podcast. His point is 100% valid and in no way discussed what was said in the podcast, and he wasnt even the one that mentioned scientific merit at all.

I would also much prefer to have the information delivered in a much shorter format because its very easy to lose the point and purpose of the delivered information when its part of a podcast that doesn't focus on in exclusively, and even then when it does it can be far to much to try and take in in one go.

A lot of thumbnails are clickbait purely for the initial suck in, be they great advise or terrible advise, knowledgeable or pure speculative.
 
My original joke '101' comment was about YT fitness content in general, not just your video link - i've watched a lot of podcast content over the years and more often than not, it's needlessly dragged out to increase viewing minutes and make money. Ultimately, that's the goal, it's there to make money - be under no illusion they're being altruistic and trying to make your life better for the sake of it, it's all about $$$.

I'm sorry if it seemed like i'm 'poo pooing' it, it's not my intent - I just like the general interaction here, the exchange of ideas and information and I find you get a better dialogue and back and forth with more written content as opposed to posting a video with a few lines accompanying it. Looking back through most of the videos you've posted, you're not getting many replies and interaction as you're not giving us much to go on about the content. You're often posting 60+ minute videos and many of us don't have that amount of time spare to commit without some idea of what's there.

I've not said any of the content you has no scientific merit or dismissed it, i've merely twice expressed a desire to read and consume that way, rather than be told in a dragged out video. I spend a fair bit free time reading about fitness, diet, new studies, meta analysis and I can guarantee, reading about this content you're going to take it a lot more information than the equivalent time spent watching/listening to someone talking about it as there is so much fluff.

Life is complex and so are we. The more we take time to learn stuff the better we'll all be.
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Indeed and maybe take some of that complexity and add some more back and forth of ideas in the thread rather than posting videos with little follow up would be nice - it simply feels like your coming in - pointing, saying look, 'FACTS' rather than having a conversation.
 
Syla5 said:
Sorry Fuzz but im calling you out here, @SixTwoSix was merely responding to Andy who asked why do people make such clickbait thumbnails, and you've taken his response to mean that he doesnt agree with whats been said in that podcast. His point is 100% valid and in no way discussed what was said in the podcast, and he wasnt even the one that mentioned scientific merit at all.

I would also much prefer to have the information delivered in a much shorter format because its very easy to lose the point and purpose of the delivered information when its part of a podcast that doesn't focus on in exclusively, and even then when it does it can be far to much to try and take in in one go.

A lot of thumbnails are clickbait purely for the initial suck in, be they great advise or terrible advise, knowledgeable or pure speculative.
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But the podcasts have specific sections labelled you can go straight to, with title attached of what's being discussed at each point.
The video also has playback speed adjustment so you can watch / listen at 1.5x or greater if you just want it to "be delivered in a shorter format"

Lastly, there was nothing actually wrong with the title of the video. It wasn't even clickbait. Building muscle rather than cardio does more good, larger muscles burn more calories and cardio for most people makes them hungry..

Try that section and speed it up!
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No.1 Heart Surgeon: Cardio Is A Waste Of Time For Weight Loss! Philip Ovadia | E240

Dr Philip Ovadia is an American heart surgeon, founder of Ovadia Heart Health and the author of the new book, “Stay Off My Operating Table”. Topics:0:00 Intr...
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The thumbnail which is what whoever it was originally commented on says "Cardio is a waste of time!" that is clickbait and complete rubbish.
The title is at least slightly more sane although personally I still don't agree, being cardiovascularly fit means you can push harder in your lifting sessions therefore gaining more useful mass and generally makes moving more in general life easier.
 
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My comment wasn't even because it was 'clickbait', it was because it's a stupid thing to say to people if they're looking to lose weight. Surely he's lost clicks and £££ because of that?

Fuzz said:
Lastly, there was nothing actually wrong with the title of the video. It wasn't even clickbait. Building muscle rather than cardio does more good, larger muscles burn more calories and cardio for most people makes them hungry..
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This I completely disagree with too. I spent 30 years lifting weights and avoiding cardio. I gradually got heavier and less healthy. I took up cycling and dropped 7 stone in 6 months. (Yes, I changed my diet too, so they're both to take the credit)

The muscle mass is something I've disagreed with people in here previously. Just because bigger muscles burn more calories, that only really helps your base level of energy burn, but if you're still fairly sedentary, overall it's nowhere near as good as a two or three 5 hour rides each week.
 
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Cycling and also walking are amazing ways to create a calorie deficit. A longish cycle ride buys me an extra meal in the day… much as I love getting out in the fresh air, let’s face it, it’s getting to eat what I like that really motivates me!

Have probably wiped out the calorie deficit for the week by going on a chocolate binge this evening. Exhausting week and being on call has caused me to cave in. Haven’t done that in ages which is good I guess. Got a wedding tomorrow which isn’t going to help either. Just got to remember that this is a temporary blip. Probably no worse than going to the pub for 4 beers I suppose!
 
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