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I'm not convinced that high beam when filtering is a good idea as it's more difficult to judge distance and speed in the mirror, most drivers have a hard enough time with that as is. And frankly, if they don't notice me when I'm wearing hi-vis on a big v-twin tourer, then they're not looking or just don't care.
 
Crowze said:
I'm not convinced that high beam when filtering is a good idea as it's more difficult to judge distance and speed in the mirror, most drivers have a hard enough time with that as is. And frankly, if they don't notice me when I'm wearing hi-vis on a big v-twin tourer, then they're not looking or just don't care.
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They care when the mirrors go when they pull out on you and you don't have enough time to totally avoid contact. I don't clip mirrors, I always stop and than judge whenever I can squeeze through or not.

But when they move to block me than they usually clip the mirror on my mirror, my bar end mirrors are scratched up from London riding. :rolleyes: It only happens to the idiots that try to block me when I'm pretty much on level with them. I don't do it intentionally. :p
 
So when I did my CBT two weeks ago, the instructor taught us "slow control" which means riding the clutch at a steady RPM and regulating speed with the rear brake. I'd never heard of it before but it is very handy for short maneuvres and u-turns. All the engine and 'box bits keep spinning which acts as a gyroscope, really handy trick. I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, have you guys heard of this? Have I been living under a rock?
 
Yeah, it is handy. When you're going too quick can use the rear brake to slow you down and when you're losing balance let the clutch out a bit it'll straighten up the bike. ;)
 
Diddums said:
So when I did my CBT two weeks ago, the instructor taught us "slow control" which means riding the clutch at a steady RPM and regulating speed with the rear brake. I'd never heard of it before but it is very handy for short maneuvres and u-turns. All the engine and 'box bits keep spinning which acts as a gyroscope, really handy trick. I don't know if this is common knowledge or not, have you guys heard of this? Have I been living under a rock?
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I hate to spoil your fun but that is probably the most taught thing in every motorcycle school in the world :p:D
 
Dammit, here's me thinking I'm on to something :D


Shirley it's terrible for the clutch? Or are they built to take it?
 
Yep that's how you do it. When you're riding at a decent speed, the wheels turning keep the bike upright but at slow speeds you don't have this, so having the engine at 3-4k rpm or so helps keep the bike stable. Speed is controlled by feathering the clutch and/or rear brake.

With experience you'll be able to do the 'no feet down' trick at ridiculously slow speeds, I can already be at 1mph on the Tuono and have both feet on the pegs, fully in control :D
 
Diddums said:
Dammit, here's me thinking I'm on to something :D


Shirley it's terrible for the clutch? Or are they built to take it?
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Clutches are pretty simple beasts on bikes and most sit in the engine oil to keep them cool so they can take a fair old bit of abuse.
 
Wet clutch - meant to be slipped. It's not like a car clutch where if you get someone holding the car on a hill with the clutch there's a burning smell and a little pile of clutch material left on the road :D
 
Just shows, every day's a school day. When I did my moped licence in Holland years ago (like 17 years ago) there was no mention of it, and until my CBT two weeks ago, that was also the only training I'd had. I must say I loved it, I managed to go really slow and it was really fun to learn. I had competitions with my wife who could go the slowest, me on the CBF125 or her on the Honda Vision. Suffice to say, she never stood a chance :p
 
Probably because it's not an option on a twist and go moped.

It's rare I even bother dragging the back brake these days, I'm one of those rebels that just feathers the clutch and avoid U turns :p
 
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tom_e said:
Probably because it's not an option on a twist and go moped.

It's rare I even bother dragging the back brake these days, I'm one of those rebels that just feathers the clutch and avoid U turns :p
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They did teach it, and she did manage it, but obviously it's a lot easier with a manual clutch and more spinning bits to help out than with a single centrifugal clutch spinning for the gyro effect.
 
To be honest having never ridden a twist and go I'm showing my complete ignorance here but how does it work?

If all you'e got it a throttle and brake then surely it's less clutch control on one of those and more just holding the throttle steady and braking if you need to keep it really slow while hoping the automatic clutch so of knows what you're trying to achieve.
 
That's exactly how it works. Scooters (at least all the 125s, I think 500s and above are starting to get dual clutch transmissions) are CVTs. I've worked on hundreds of the bloody things as a kid.

Here's a vid of how they work (I'm only posting this in case you don't know, if you do then please ignore)

 
I'll watch it when I get home, like I said I've never even been near a twist and go so it's not something I've looked into but it's more interesting that whatever drivel is on the TV when I get in :)
 
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