Billion 7800N -early thoughts

Ok well it hasn't been a week but I am confident enough to give an update

Firstly the router has been very stable without a single unscheduled drop. I tweaked the SNR to get me into the 2.5Mb IP profile which is a great result

SNR is virtually flat

~5ms better pings

Non existent bitswapping on downstream

RS corrected is just over 2%. High RS Uncorrected and/or RS Corrected errors is an indication of line issues. Can I be bothered to ring India ? Not if I value my sanity

It does not affect speedtest results adversely but I am pushing near the limit of what the line can handle



RS uncorrected and CRC are very low

By way of background:
"Reed Solomon is a forward error correction scheme (FEC) used on the dsl line coding.

On the physical level your dsl modem takes the bits from your PC and prior to transmission puts them in chunks called RS codewords. Each codeword also has some redundant bits attached to it. If due to noise on the line, the receiving modem cant make out part of the "codeword" it tries to use the redundant bits to re-create the codeword. If it is successful you get a corrected RS error.....If not successful you get an uncorrected RS error. From this you can see corrected RS errors do you no harm (but lets you know you are living on the edge) but uncorrected RS errors require retransmission of the data and makes you slow."


Routerstats I have made a lot of progress

For the router search text:

Use this URL for the stats page (or whatever ip address for the router)
http://192.168.1.254/status/adslstatus.html

Tick Use source A, get the page and mark the stats that you want

Telnet:

login set to admin and password - cannot see an option to use a different password ?

Change telnet prompt to >

Change chipset, command set to adsl info --stats

Most of the telnet stats and Bits/Tone work except for Up/down connection rate and max rate - displays just 1 or 2 figures

Update version 6.6e work fully now - tick alternative data format on the Telnet tab

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This is one of the best IT purchases I have made and an outstanding router for a long/difficult line
 
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^^^ cheers for the info, just a thought on you're attenuation going up when you installed this router, have you tried turning OFF ALL the ADSL2 options ?,.... be well worth trying.

Received my 7700N today, turned off all adsl2, my sync is .5 db higher than my DG834DG
Have to Telnet in to change my SNR on it though.
 
is there any real difference between the 7800n and the 7700n? does it have more a less the same kind of functions lije snr tweak etc? Im guessing it wont have the gigabit ports which is fair enough

Also from reading various reviews is it true i can actually change the profile of my line to say g.dmt from adsl2+ through the router itself instead of having to ring sky and ask them to change it for me?

thanks again and cheers for the update david
 
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^^^ cheers for the info, just a thought on you're attenuation going up when you installed this router, have you tried turning OFF ALL the ADSL2 options ?,.... be well worth trying.

Received my 7700N today, turned off all adsl2, my sync is .5 db higher than my DG834DG
Have to Telnet in to change my SNR on it though.

Yes ADSL2 options were off from the start

For the SNR on the 7700N does this work ? (use your router's ip)

http://192.168.1.254/snr.cgi
 
David are you on an MER connection with sky? I just want to make sure this router is compat with that type of connection as thats what they seem to be rolling out for new customers like myself instead of the pppoa connection

No just ADSL with Zen

It does support MPoA with LLC encapsulation
 
Yes ADSL2 options were off from the start

For the SNR on the 7700N does this work ? (use your router's ip)

http://192.168.1.254/snr.cgi

^^^No it just gives a blank page, dont mind having to telnet in to do it, but it will have to be redone every time it resets :(,... RouterStats works on the 7700N the same as it is working for you.

Liam the 7700N and the 7800NL are Broadcom chipsets, the 7800N has the Ralink chip.
 
I've had a Billion 7404VPNX for almost a year. I'm in Australia and over here Billion are the most common router I believe.

All my life i'd had Netgear, Belkin, Linksys, etc with varying results. When I did a search on here as soon as I moved to Aus there was a lot of negativity towards Billion so i was a bit worried.

Happy to say my billion has been rock solid and very impressive over the last year.
 
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