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So are you saying Amazon themselves are lying?
Billionaires pay "0% - 0.5% tax" report finds - Suggests 2% minimum tax.
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So are you saying Amazon themselves are lying?
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I don't know what your argument is.
He's not wrong no one is forced to... you know... you could just not go for the job.
At the job I left last week people worked 12 hour shifts, "continental shifts" the workers actually prefer that because it works out being 3 days on 4 days off, 4 days on 3 days off.
I personally would rather have 12 hour shifts and a 4 day week.
When i used to work in retail i would be standing for 8-9 hours a day.
He's not wrong no one is forced to... you know... you could just not go for the job.
At the job I left last week people worked 12 hour shifts, "continental shifts" the workers actually prefer that because it works out being 3 days on 4 days off, 4 days on 3 days off.
I personally would rather have 12 hour shifts and a 4 day week.
When i used to work in retail i would be standing for 8-9 hours a day.
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Lovely working conditions lol.
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Lovely working conditions lol.
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So I think this is an industry issue, people who are driving vans delivering don't have easy access to public toilets because there aren't enough of them. This is a genuine issue, a lack of public toilets, but not one exclusive to Amazon. I'm sure delivery drivers do have breaks scheduled in, given part of the work I do is within scheduling I do understand how this works. Maybe Amazon need to be more flexible with their shrinkage and allow more time for drivers to take a comfort/toilet break, but I'd need to see the actual data, not just some floppy haired C4 journo who's probably never actually done a days work before whining on a documentary.
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So why don't we bring back the workhouse? You "chose" to end up there right? By being too poor.
Soldato
Everyone who's deeply offended by the plight of amazon warehouse workers should probably not buy 90% of their items from them and expect a swift next day delivery lol.
I sympathise with them because it sounds a rough job but my desire to buy endless amounts of crap from one company means I'm probably part of the problem.
I sympathise with them because it sounds a rough job but my desire to buy endless amounts of crap from one company means I'm probably part of the problem.
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This is interesting in its timing.
Magic Johnson (of NBA fame)
Earned $40M from his NBA career
Now has wealth of around $1.2Bn
As many of us know, the barrier to entry comes from being able to buy in to these sorts of places.
Once your in to a decent level, your wealth will go up quickly, you just need time.
Magic Johnson (of NBA fame)
Earned $40M from his NBA career
Now has wealth of around $1.2Bn
As many of us know, the barrier to entry comes from being able to buy in to these sorts of places.
Once your in to a decent level, your wealth will go up quickly, you just need time.
Magic Johnson declared a billionaire by Forbes
The former basketball star becomes only the fourth athlete to be declared a billionaire.
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Those job adverts are for 30 of 40 hour weeks a standard working week.
I genuinely don't understand your argument should everyone at Amazon work a 30 minute day with 6 hours break and be paid £4000 a day?
Like actually what is your issue here?
Many people like 12h shifts I don't work then but i would opt for it if was an option. At my previous job the workers decided they want to change to 12 hour days. For me I'd rather work longer days so I worked less days during the week.
What is your actual issue here?
You seem to have an issue because it's Amazon nothing more nothing less.
Soldato
The issue is brain degeneration due to communist ideology.
Sounds like public sector and ex-public sector (heavily unionised) companies: National Grid, National Rail, TFL, British Gas etc.
It would be nice if Amazon at least paid industry average wages.
54% of households in this country receive more in benefits than they pay in tax. It’s near impossible for a lot of people to do normal things like raise a family without help from the state. Companies like Amazon paying poor wages increases the tax burden on the rest of us.
I don’t know what the solution is to the ever increasing gap between the rich and poor but it’s screwing not just those at the bottom but 95% of us.
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As opposed to the faux capitalist (what we have now is not capitalism) who thinks not being able to have families or accrue any wealth because all the rentier parasites have sucked up an economy's worth of liquidity.
By the way, Amazon is a rental business not a retail business, it doesn't purchase anything it takes a percentage of sales from 'tenant' shops.
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Soldato
Is anyone? What about those that just want to call it like it is and not make out like it's some fun place with funky music?
Soldato
I addressed those who were
. I don't think anyone believes a warehouse or line based job is a fun place. But companies who run them understandably need to market them as such for basic recruitment purposes.
Soldato
sure. i think it's easy to find videos and examples of it being poor condition and stupid expectations for little money, and examples of being an ok warehouse to work. both can exist together.I addressed those who were
I don't think anyone believes a warehouse or line based job is a fun place. But companies who run them understandably need to market them as such for basic recruitment purposes.
Soldato
They are doing both, what does the word retailer even mean to you?
When you go on a product you can see it says who sells it and who dispatches it
| Y/Y % Change | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Net Sales | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Online stores (1) | $ | 50,855 | $ | 53,489 | $ | 64,531 | $ | 51,096 | $ | 52,966 | $ | 57,267 | 7% | |||||||||||||
| Online stores -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 0 | % | 13 | % | 2 | % | 3 | % | 5 | % | 6 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| Physical stores (2) | $ | 4,721 | $ | 4,694 | $ | 4,957 | $ | 4,895 | $ | 5,024 | $ | 4,959 | 6% | |||||||||||||
| Physical stores -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 13 | % | 10 | % | 6 | % | 7 | % | 7 | % | 6 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| Third-party seller services (3) | $ | 27,376 | $ | 28,666 | $ | 36,339 | $ | 29,820 | $ | 32,332 | $ | 34,342 | 20% | |||||||||||||
| Third-party seller services -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 13 | % | 23 | % | 24 | % | 20 | % | 18 | % | 18 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| Subscription services (4) | $ | 8,716 | $ | 8,903 | $ | 9,189 | $ | 9,657 | $ | 9,894 | $ | 10,170 | 14% | |||||||||||||
| Subscription services -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 14 | % | 14 | % | 17 | % | 17 | % | 14 | % | 13 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| Advertising services (5) | $ | 8,757 | $ | 9,548 | $ | 11,557 | $ | 9,509 | $ | 10,683 | $ | 12,060 | 26% | |||||||||||||
| Advertising services -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 21 | % | 30 | % | 23 | % | 23 | % | 22 | % | 25 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| AWS | $ | 19,739 | $ | 20,538 | $ | 21,378 | $ | 21,354 | $ | 22,140 | $ | 23,059 | 12% | |||||||||||||
| AWS -- Y/Y growth, excluding F/X | 33 | % | 28 | % | 20 | % | 16 | % | 12 | % | 12 | % | N/A | |||||||||||||
| Other (6) | $ | 1,070 | $ | 1,263 | $ | 1,253 | $ | 1,027 | $ | 1,344 | $ | 1,226 | (3)% | |||||||||||||
| Other -- Y/Y growth (decline), excluding F/X | 135 | % | 168 | % | 80 | % | 57 | % | 26 | % | (3 | )% | N/A |
What you are talking about is listed as third party seller services, this is the total amount of fee's not the value of goods sold
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If you look at his history of investments, his returns weren’t really much more than a tracker fund. Then he did an all in bet on one company and made $$$$$.This is interesting in its timing.
Magic Johnson (of NBA fame)
Earned $40M from his NBA career
Now has wealth of around $1.2Bn
As many of us know, the barrier to entry comes from being able to buy in to these sorts of places.
Once your in to a decent level, your wealth will go up quickly, you just need time.
Magic Johnson declared a billionaire by Forbes
The former basketball star becomes only the fourth athlete to be declared a billionaire.www.bbc.co.uk
The layperson could have achieved the same returns with crypto at the same time.
High risk choice resulted in a high reward
If I was a billionaire, I would certainly brush up on loopholes of paying a lot less (or no) tax or have a team that can do it for me.
Why would anyone want to give away half or more than half of their earnings? Only last month I worked my balls off doing a lot of extra overtime only for my tax to hit and £600 of that overtime was taken away from me in 1 month. My wage was only slightly higher than the month before.
If you're a billionaire, even millionaire then it would be stupid to no live somewhere or have that money in a place where half of it is taken away!
The whole tax system is broken and need fixing first IMO. Inheritance tax, dont get me started.
Why would anyone want to give away half or more than half of their earnings? Only last month I worked my balls off doing a lot of extra overtime only for my tax to hit and £600 of that overtime was taken away from me in 1 month. My wage was only slightly higher than the month before.
If you're a billionaire, even millionaire then it would be stupid to no live somewhere or have that money in a place where half of it is taken away!
The whole tax system is broken and need fixing first IMO. Inheritance tax, dont get me started.
Soldato
If you earn two billion and the get taxed half of that then I'm pretty sure you can survive on the one billion left over. And your tax can maybe go to help the society and staff that has helped earn you it in the first place.