Bit late to include it in a later patch, a lot of people had already completed the game by then. Its a bit half-****ed too, they should either have left it or disabled vitachambers completely, not given the option. If you are playing through the game for the first time you wouldn't know what to do.
Bioshock - How to kill big Daddies
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That's kind of explained in the earlier 'twist' in the story.
Care to elaborate.
Obviously theres the whole, would you kindly thing I guess...But still. When you first see it, it's like...oooooook.
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How they attack is easy, all they do is smack on the ground and sprint into you.
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I'd suggest re-sitting through the whole sequence where that thing is explained a bit. It tells you about all that and explains it all.
I won't bother posting spoilers
I won't bother posting spoilers
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My favourite, although tricky, was to find two.. Throw rage at one and let him chase into the path of another. Then watch
PS freezing doesn't work on them - It just suspends them for a bit.
PS freezing doesn't work on them - It just suspends them for a bit.
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He doesn't mean the opponent is immortal, he means you are (the player) which ruined the experience???
They are easy to kill - just use one of the many techniques outlined above - what I like is the fact that you can choose how you want to do it. You can be sneaky and use trap bolts - clever with the barrels/mine - or just bludgeon them to death. Or a combination - set splicers on him, trap him, then run him into a pre-positioned mine. Getting them to fight each other has got to be the most satisfying though.
They are far from immortal - even on the harder levels - and just because the game temporarily outfoxes you shouldn't mean you drop your toys and brand it lame - relish the challenge, dust yourself off and try something different - grow with the challenge for a change (or go play a console game and keep mashing the pad if that's your thing)
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uvmain defeated the last boss with upgraded wrench + freeze power. Apparently was rather easy?
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Recently completed the game. I used a combination of different methods. When they were 'easier' to kill u used shock/freeze + shotty. Other times I used to back pedal hurtling grenades at them. Then the most effective way is the electric gel! You just need to stand there with your finger on shoot until he dies.
the electric gel is the best pity its a hard ammo to make
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AS said, the faulty with this, which I always say is identical to Stalkers problem, was both companies wanted to make an RPG, failed horrifically, kept in the player being able to MASSIVELY increase his stats, strength, defence, health, power etc, while none of the bad guys get such large increases. In both games 20% into the game you are next to immortal and you lose the need to be creative or put in effort to kill anything. The lack of seriously harder gameplay anywhere throughout either game, with similar/same bad guys from start to finish left sorely threadbare gameplay.
The fun in most games is powering up stats, or getting better weapons, only to face better opponents and more puzzels to thwart you. Both games completely forgot to scale the difficulty of the game, something thats been fairly standard since the beginning of gaming. Frankly IN Bioshock from around half way through you can kill everything, easily with just the wrench which is just a touch pathetic. There might be loads of plasmids but almost all of them went unused. Wait a minute or two for a big daddy to walk near someone you could get to kill him, or walk into a puddle to fry him, when you can just run up and smack him one.
Every new plasmid I'd use it for 2-3 kills, get bored, switch to the most standard fast acting ones and power on through.
Story was poor and I can't remember a game with such a truly ridiculously easy end game boss. Remember the days of multiple tries learning the sweet spots to hit boss's and how to kill them. With bioshock i remember, standing back, shooting and it being over and thinking, WTF... with a pretty awful end story aswell. While the graphics weren't in any way fantastic, its what you do with it that counts. GTA4, billions of light effects and a awful looking game. Bioshock, really quite weak texturing but a brilliant overall effect from just great design. Shame the story/gameplay ruined it.
Most people just felt it was a chore to finish the game, where as with say COD4 i was pushing through the game wanting to see what happened next and was dissappointed when the game finished, in that I couldn't keep going, as opposed to being relieved I was finished and could go play something else.
EDIT:- I guess something that was wildy needed in both games, and games like Crysis, was far more varied enemies. You want the esculation of difficulty, harder guys with more attacks, more weapons to use on you. For Bioshock you i would think needed another 4-5 enemy types at minimum throughout the area's, and you'd want one to be highly susceptable to frost, one who would triple in strength when in Rage and attack other guys, one who hates fire goes mental and sets others on fire. You need things like plasmids to be the only way to kill certain people, rather than a slower alternative to a basic easier quicker attack. There was just no variation. Again looking at COD4, you weren't always doing exactly the same thing, sniper level, the plane bombing level, varied terraine and varied fighting styles, city, field, fighting on the run or from a defendable position. Bioshock was, after 1-2 hours in, run in smack everything done.
The fun in most games is powering up stats, or getting better weapons, only to face better opponents and more puzzels to thwart you. Both games completely forgot to scale the difficulty of the game, something thats been fairly standard since the beginning of gaming. Frankly IN Bioshock from around half way through you can kill everything, easily with just the wrench which is just a touch pathetic. There might be loads of plasmids but almost all of them went unused. Wait a minute or two for a big daddy to walk near someone you could get to kill him, or walk into a puddle to fry him, when you can just run up and smack him one.
Every new plasmid I'd use it for 2-3 kills, get bored, switch to the most standard fast acting ones and power on through.
Story was poor and I can't remember a game with such a truly ridiculously easy end game boss. Remember the days of multiple tries learning the sweet spots to hit boss's and how to kill them. With bioshock i remember, standing back, shooting and it being over and thinking, WTF... with a pretty awful end story aswell. While the graphics weren't in any way fantastic, its what you do with it that counts. GTA4, billions of light effects and a awful looking game. Bioshock, really quite weak texturing but a brilliant overall effect from just great design. Shame the story/gameplay ruined it.
Most people just felt it was a chore to finish the game, where as with say COD4 i was pushing through the game wanting to see what happened next and was dissappointed when the game finished, in that I couldn't keep going, as opposed to being relieved I was finished and could go play something else.
EDIT:- I guess something that was wildy needed in both games, and games like Crysis, was far more varied enemies. You want the esculation of difficulty, harder guys with more attacks, more weapons to use on you. For Bioshock you i would think needed another 4-5 enemy types at minimum throughout the area's, and you'd want one to be highly susceptable to frost, one who would triple in strength when in Rage and attack other guys, one who hates fire goes mental and sets others on fire. You need things like plasmids to be the only way to kill certain people, rather than a slower alternative to a basic easier quicker attack. There was just no variation. Again looking at COD4, you weren't always doing exactly the same thing, sniper level, the plane bombing level, varied terraine and varied fighting styles, city, field, fighting on the run or from a defendable position. Bioshock was, after 1-2 hours in, run in smack everything done.
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I disagree - what happens if you don't have that particular plasmid?
In general I dislike games which force you to use a particular method to kill enemies (quite common where bosses are concerned), I much prefer being able to use any weapon and want and keep blasting away.
Sure, your other ideas are good (enemies with strengths/weaknesses against different plasmids) but I hate enemies that are immune to all but one form of attack - that, in mind mind, is a true lack of variation.
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lol u live in Lowestoft too!!! Common the Trawlerboys!!
Well I managed to take the first one down easily after actually having ammo.
I can see what people say now about it being easy, I've scavaged more and now have more health kits, eve and money. Always have 9 health kits on me.
I can see what people say now about it being easy, I've scavaged more and now have more health kits, eve and money. Always have 9 health kits on me.