Bit slow on Photoshop calcs / Adobe file conversions. New Processor?

Mel_P

Mel_P

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I built my current PC 1 couple of years (approx) ago now.

This is the gist of of it!

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MAG B550 Tomahawk (MS-7C91)
BIOS A.00 - AMD AGESA ComboAM4v2PI 1.0.0.0
Graphics - AMD Radeon RX6600
Memory - DDR4 32GB 1600 MHz

I feel it needs a bit of a boost on some photoshop stuff (e.g. focus stacking 20 Raw files). I only use it for photoshop , lightroom, excel word, access occasionally. My Grandson uses it even less for "x-plane" when he gets bored on s visit!

I know the Ryzen 5 is pretty "old hat" now.

Web search says Ryzen 7 3700X is next step up? OCUK has only one of these - B grade at £200. Is that the way to go?

(https://www.overclockers.co.uk/?query=ryzen%207%203700x £200 / B grade)

IF I did go this way would I need to upgrade the BIOS for the CPU?

Thanks for any advice. Mel
 
Thanks - been on MSI web site and looked at all of the Bios issues.

Mine says
MAG B550 TOMAHAWK (MS-7C91) V10.0 BIOS Release
1. This is AMI BIOS release / 2. New BIOS Release /3. 2020/5/15

Latest is:
MAG B550 TOMAHAWK (MS-7C91) V10.F BIOS Release
1. This is AMI BIOS release / 2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version: - AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.B update.
- AMD security issue patch. / 3. 2023/10/24

5700X = £209 - about the same.
5600 = £125 - cheap!

"Can you show us a screen of task manager while you're stacking, just to be sure what the bottleneck is and if all your cores are being loaded"

Will have a look at that tomorrow and report back! Thanks for the suggestion.

Just a bit concerned about flashing the BIOS !!!! - don't want to end up with a dud motherboard!
 
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PHEW!!!!
Updated bios (JUST SIMPLE WAY, COPY TO USB, REBOOT, GO TO BIOS UPDATE) to:

vendor American Megatrends International LLC.
version A.F0
date 10/19/2023

Sweaty brow time over!
 
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Ps Question - the memory is

Memory Type DDR4
Memory Size 32 GBytes
Channels 2 x 64-bit
Memory Frequency 1199.7 MHz (1:12)
Memory Max Frequency 1600.0 MHz
CAS# latency (CL) 16.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 16
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 16
Cycle Time (tRAS) 39
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 55
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Uncore Frequency 1199.7 MHz

Will this be adequate for a Ryzen 7 5800X? Thanks
 
Productivity. Me every day :D . Games - grandson once every few months :rolleyes:.

BUT 5900 etc are Ryzen 9, socket AM5, so 5800X is furthest I could go with AM4?

Mel
 
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"Can you show us a screen of task manager while you're stacking, just to be sure what the bottleneck is and if all your cores are being loaded"

Task Manager shows CPU <30% duty when focus stacking? Lost snip now!!!
 
FloppyPoppy said:
Hi @Mel_P Sadly i don’t think this is your system at fault, Photoshop is notoriously bad at focus stacking especially on the bigger raws like those from an a7r v. We have been pestering Adobe for decades about this and given it still hasn’t been improved i don’t hold out hope.

Helicon Focus is a dedicated software for this which works miles faster. This is arguably the best one in the market though it does come with a price tag though a reasonable one in comparison to adobe prices.

There are others for less and i believe in some cases free though i will leave it with you to research the pros and cons of those.

don’t get me wrong, you may see some improvements from upgrading, just probably not what you will be expecting.
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Thanks for your precautionary note!
 
Only 1 core seems to be active (NB THIS IS THE OLD PHOTOSHOP!!

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This one is using Affinity Photo 2 - a modern image manipulation programme - seems like it is using 3 cores - these seem to run at 100% for part of cycle?
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Been looking at prices etc. I didn't realise how AM4 an AM5 sockets are mixed up in the Ryzen cpus. Seems a bit random but I suspect it's based upon date of release of CPU.

I'm wondering if I wait a while will the price of the Ryzen 7 5800X fall? Not sure if AMD has some sort of release / stop-selling cycle that would allow some prediction?
 
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Minstadave said:
Mixed up in what way?

5xxx are all AM4
7xxx are all AM5
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things like Ryzen 9 5900X AM4
and Ryzen 7 7700X AM5
and Ryzen 5 7600X AM5

Took me a while to twig it was the first digit 5, 7, 7 that determine AM4 or AM5 - not the Ryzen 9,7,5 bit!! I thought the ryzen number was related to socket ID. :rolleyes:

Minstadave said:
On AM4 I would normally choose:

5700X at £175 - 8 cores
5900X at £240 - 12 cores

The 5800X isn't worth much over the 5700X, unless its on offer at under £180 the 5700X is a better buy.
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Thanks re advice over 5700X / 5800X. Mel
 
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Tetras said:
Yes.


For productivity: 5900/5900X, ....
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Well my premium bonds came up reasonably well in Feb so decided to go for 5900X - now installed and just up and running after the BIOS update done a while ago. Seems OK - at least it worked first time - both the BIOS update and the CPU swap!

I expect my grandson will be hoping that I donate the 3600 to him!!!!! He will need to get hold of an AM4 motherboard - he is on AM3 at moment.

Thanks all..
 
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Question - what is a "best value" AM4 motherboard to use the Ryzen 3600 on please?
 
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