Bit slow on Photoshop calcs / Adobe file conversions. New Processor?

FloppyPoppy said:
Hi @Mel_P Sadly i don’t think this is your system at fault, Photoshop is notoriously bad at focus stacking especially on the bigger raws like those from an a7r v. We have been pestering Adobe for decades about this and given it still hasn’t been improved i don’t hold out hope.

Helicon Focus is a dedicated software for this which works miles faster. This is arguably the best one in the market though it does come with a price tag though a reasonable one in comparison to adobe prices.

There are others for less and i believe in some cases free though i will leave it with you to research the pros and cons of those.

don’t get me wrong, you may see some improvements from upgrading, just probably not what you will be expecting.
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Thanks for your precautionary note!
 
Only 1 core seems to be active (NB THIS IS THE OLD PHOTOSHOP!!

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This one is using Affinity Photo 2 - a modern image manipulation programme - seems like it is using 3 cores - these seem to run at 100% for part of cycle?
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Some media relating benchmarking here: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/amd-ryzen-5000-series-cpu-review-roundup-1962/

The short of it being that even changing from a 3600X to a 5600X (so staying at 6 cores / 12 threads) will be between 10% and 20% faster (even in single threaded software like your photoshop example)

Obviously a 5700X or 5800X adds another pair of cores, so as well as the above boost, you'd also get probably another 25% boost in software that is able to use the extra cores.
 
Mel_P said:
Only 1 core seems to be active (NB THIS IS THE OLD PHOTOSHOP!!
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It is pretty normal for older software and 2D/photography software to be single core/thread oriented, though based on what has been said above, how much direct benefit you'd get for that specific task, I don't know. What it does suggest, is that just getting more cores is probably not the right move, you'll need both higher per core/thread performance and more cores.
 

I have time stamped this video at the point in time where this gentleman starts to stack 32 Raws. It takes a long time as expected. You can see later in the video he does the exact same stack in Helicon which goes miles faster and also comes out rendered much better and without faults.
 
Been looking at prices etc. I didn't realise how AM4 an AM5 sockets are mixed up in the Ryzen cpus. Seems a bit random but I suspect it's based upon date of release of CPU.

I'm wondering if I wait a while will the price of the Ryzen 7 5800X fall? Not sure if AMD has some sort of release / stop-selling cycle that would allow some prediction?
 
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Mel_P said:
Been looking at prices etc. I didn't realise how AM4 an AM5 sockets are mixed up in the Ryzen cpus. Seems a bit random but I suspect it's based upon date of release of CPU.

I'm wondering if I wait a while will the price of the Ryzen 7 5800X fall? Not sure if AMD has some sort of release / stop-selling cycle that would allow some prediction?
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Mixed up in what way?

5xxx are all AM4

7xxx are all AM5

On AM4 I would normally choose:

5700X at £175 - 8 cores
5900X at £240 - 12 cores

The 5800X isn't worth much over the 5700X, unless its on offer at under £180 the 5700X is a better buy.
 
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Mel_P said:
Seems a bit random but I suspect it's based upon date of release of CPU.

I'm wondering if I wait a while will the price of the Ryzen 7 5800X fall? Not sure if AMD has some sort of release / stop-selling cycle that would allow some prediction?
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There's still decent demand for AM4, both for upgrades on older Ryzen CPUs and for budget/affordable PCs, so I wouldn't expect the release of new AM5 CPUs to lower prices by much, if at all. If AMD decides to EOL AM4, then I suppose stock clearances are possible, but I can't see that happening for a good while yet.
 
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Minstadave said:
Mixed up in what way?

5xxx are all AM4
7xxx are all AM5
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things like Ryzen 9 5900X AM4
and Ryzen 7 7700X AM5
and Ryzen 5 7600X AM5

Took me a while to twig it was the first digit 5, 7, 7 that determine AM4 or AM5 - not the Ryzen 9,7,5 bit!! I thought the ryzen number was related to socket ID. :rolleyes:

Minstadave said:
On AM4 I would normally choose:

5700X at £175 - 8 cores
5900X at £240 - 12 cores

The 5800X isn't worth much over the 5700X, unless its on offer at under £180 the 5700X is a better buy.
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Thanks re advice over 5700X / 5800X. Mel
 
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In your position. I'd go for the 5950x.

You can manually tweak the curve optimiser settings in the Bios. A little homework needs done prior, and It's still a monster of a CPU.

There is a 5950X thread here, but after I researched my cores and tweaked I had this

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Tetras said:
There's still decent demand for AM4, both for upgrades on older Ryzen CPUs and for budget/affordable PCs, so I wouldn't expect the release of new AM5 CPUs to lower prices by much, if at all. If AMD decides to EOL AM4, then I suppose stock clearances are possible, but I can't see that happening for a good while yet.
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Other than the 7800X3D nearly all the best selling CPUs at the really big online store are AM4.
 
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