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The 5090 is really being turned into a halo product. No way the 5080 will be cheaper than the 4080 so I wouldn't be shocked if the 5090 RRP is £2000+.
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That’s 2 months mortgage payments for me! Wonder how many people have that much disposable income?
Really wish I could win the lottery and get a 5090 and have Henry Cavill build a PC for me lol!
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neural rendering isnt the right roadmap for graphics, we need ai to early reject instructions that have very low probability of finding their way in the final rendered pixel, sure it will cause some minor artifacting but the performance bump and efficiency gains should make up for the small loss in image quality - i believe the gpu when under 100% utilization ends up wasting more than 50% of total effort doing things that dont make any contribution to the final rendered frame
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That’s 2 months mortgage payments for me! Wonder how many people have that much disposable income?
Really wish I could win the lottery and get a 5090 and have Henry Cavill build a PC for me lol!
Rumour has it if you buy a blonde wig you can make 2k really quick on onlyfans
Where do you think all the 4090 owners on here got the money to buy one from
In other words, as I understand all these tech, Nvidia gives up on RT/PT (partially at least) and will replace higher numbers of rays with various AI-based algorithms - detailed texturing, lighting and reflection fixes, GI etc. Which would be much faster than traditional RT of similar quality, no noise, better details etc.
Now I understand what their CEO meant when he said GPUs can't get much faster and AI will have to step in. Problem is that this is likely not going to work with any current engine or DX as is - it will require new DX or engine changes or they will release new DLL similar to DLSS and plugins to UE as "black boxes", to prevent any competition, locking it all up to just their newest generation GPUs. We know how this will end, knowing their track record. Most importantly, it will likely take years to become widespread in games.
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Why wig? Have you seen what Chinese streamers do for a while now? Very good AI models processing your image live so you could be 80+ male and still look like perfect 20yo+ Asian gal in the camera, all live, no artefacts.Rumour has it if you buy a blonde wig you can make 2k really quick on onlyfans
Where do you think all the 4090 owners on here got the money to buy one from
And yes, already bunch of models in the west use the tech, so even thirsty people paying for it get AI based fake stuff as is. Now anyone can be such model.
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Eeek I seen a picture on facebook of four chinese or asian blokes that AI/filter then makes it look like 4 womenWhy wig? Have you seen what Chinese streamers do for a while now? Very good AI models processing your image live so you could be 80+ male and still look like perfect 20yo+ Asian gal in the camera, all live, no artefacts.
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Please stop giving away my 'Feet for Frames' side hustle.Rumour has it if you buy a blonde wig you can make 2k really quick on onlyfans
Where do you think all the 4090 owners on here got the money to buy one from
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Knowing Nvidia they would have gotten wind of what Intel were dropping and adjusted accordingly, does seem fairly generous for them.
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If it is 32GB, which all the rumours (as well as blundered listings for complete PCs) seem to confirm, then it would have to be 512 with them using 2GB chips wouldn't it?
We'll see in a couple of weeks I guess!
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Completely agree with you in the logical sense that it would have to be.
However just can't see the reasoning for it - if the card needs that much bandwidth then I'm not sure why they wouldn't just drop HBM3e on it and be done with it (like their data centre cards) rather than the complexity/risk of a 512-bit card after all these years.
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Nvidia are famous for being as cheap, as to what they can get away with memory allocation on their GPU's. Would HBM3e cost them more than GDDR7, 512 bit bus? If so, we know why they chose the latter.
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Probably - maybe it's an experiment to see what they get away with selling for the Workstation / AI market
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Unfortunately I think your right... but only if the performance is there..
If it's shown to be XX% better than the 4090.. lets say.. 60-70%.. I think even at £3,500 people would still buy them..
If it's only 10-20% better, then i'm not sure even £2500 would work.
Soldato
All depends on the 5080 and the upsell. If its like Ada then you will see posts like best value.
Its a larger die and loses some of its power efficiency unless the real figures show otherwise. Latest was its 550w when I looked but tbh if your on a 4090 already there is little reason to dump it as it already has massive headroom over the cards existing below it.
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They probably wouldn't, and I fully expect some Asus Strix Brick XXL to be close to 3k.
The 5080 is more than enough for high-end 4K gameplay, whereas the 5090 targets a different demographic who typically either have the disposable income, or are just bad with money.
Imagine what they could generate with 5090!Eeek I seen a picture on facebook of four chinese or asian blokes that AI/filter then makes it look like 4 women
Agreed. Wouldn't sell very well to gamers but plenty of other places buying 4090 that will buy 5090 for other use than gaming (AI etc.) - such places can easily pay few k for good card without batting an eye. Some here still seem to think 4090 and 5090 are gaming cards but they really aren't - gaming is just by the way, they have plenty of other use which is why 4090 sold so well yet barely shows up on gamers' stats.
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The 5060Ti with 16GB but the 5070 with 12GB?!
The 5080 with only 16GB?!?
Very incremental jumps from 5070 to 5080, then a moosive chasm between the 5080 and 5090! Nvidia really wanting consumers to purchase the next tier up.
The 5080 with only 16GB?!?
Very incremental jumps from 5070 to 5080, then a moosive chasm between the 5080 and 5090! Nvidia really wanting consumers to purchase the next tier up.