Bladerunner 2 (Spoilers!)

And yet the box office takings will be used by executives as proof that cinema goers would rather watch absolute dirge like Transformers :(

They wouldn't be wrong either. It's the ADHD generation.
 
Watched it last week and enjoyed it very much, going to see it again on Tuesday.

It certainly feels like a Blade Runner film. I am somewhat mystified about why it is expected to be a blockbuster though. While it's an excellent film, and the reviews are good, it's still only a sequel to Blade Runner!
 
Went to see it a second time. I really don't see the complaints that it's too long. The first time I was actually surprised when I read the running time as it didn't feel nearly 3 hours at all. Second time was just as much a joy as the first.

When he goes out of LA, I get quite a strong Fallout vibe from it. I just love the whole universe they have.
 
And yet the box office takings will be used by executives as proof that cinema goers would rather watch absolute dirge like Transformers :(

They wouldn't be wrong either. It's the ADHD generation.
Also in music taste too the current gen is losing the plot.

Take Hip Hop music as an example.

Todays hip hop have no soul to it. They just add lots of effects, mumble random words and talk about girls and drugs and money.

Wu Tang Clan have just released a new album last friday and it blows every other rap album released in the last decade. That album is like blade runner 2049
 
I watched it on Sunday in Imax 3d. I would rather have seen it plain imax but it wasn't an option, still found it amazing and think the sound and visuals were top notch, the 3d unnecessary.

10/10 film for me really. Went with my wife and Son and we all watched the first one the night before which in all honesty we didn't find that amazing but watching it really gave us a head start into the workings of 2049. My Son found the plot quite confusing and needed quite a bit of explanation afterwords but by wife enjoyed it very much (apart from a sequence right at the beginning which made her wonder if it was going to be too violent for her)

I loved the pace, it was always going somewhere but it didn't mind taking the right time to get there from the journeys to the walks through the building the meet whoever. Loved the sound, loved the visuals. You could have freeze framed a thousand times and set that as your screen backdrop for a month, each frame was so good.

I want to see it again in imax before it leaves the cinema as I don't think any home experience of this film will do it justice :)
 
The unicorn dream makes no sense in the original cut of the film and if Deckard is definitely not a replicant, then it should have been removed, as it serves absolutely no purpose.
Once the dream is in the film along with the paper unicorn, then we know that Deckard's dreams are known, in the same way that Deckard is aware of Rachel's.

The reason Deckard doesn't expire is nicely explained at the beginning of 2049
Nexus 8's without an expiry date

We know that Deckard's eyes glow, we know that he does show increased strength and resilience - we can also assume that as a replicant who believes he is human, he doesn't use his "extra strength" because he simply doesn't know he has it!

2049 doesn't contradict the idea from the original that Deckard is a replicant
If 2049 had actually shown him as human, then we could go back and ignore all of those things from the original - it doesn't

yeah but the replicant idea comes only from ridley, and only years after the film.
The unicorn scene was added because he thought it would look good and because he had the spare footage from Legend - there was never any more intention than that.
Everybody else from the film has basically said ridley is full of it - there was never a suggestion that deckard was a replicant at the time.
Ridley scott is just trying to do a Lucas and retroactively change his old films by making them more stupid (just look at what he's doing to the alien universe)
 
waas the unicorn scene in the final cut version?
Yes.

The dream sequence is badly edited in, as Deckard isn't even asleep when it's cut in.

Without it though, the end makes no sense at all when he picks up the origami unicorn when Rachel stands on it coming out of his apartment.
 
Yes.

The dream sequence is badly edited in, as Deckard isn't even asleep when it's cut in.

Without it though, the end makes no sense at all when he picks up the origami unicorn when Rachel stands on it coming out of his apartment.
I always thought that origami was from his partner who was at his flat while Rachel was resting and deckhard was tackling the last replicant. Indicating his partner let him and Rachel have a chance to disappear
 
Yes.

The dream sequence is badly edited in, as Deckard isn't even asleep when it's cut in.

Without it though, the end makes no sense at all when he picks up the origami unicorn when Rachel stands on it coming out of his apartment.

Unless the unicorn refers to what Rachel is ie a mythical creature.
 
I always thought that origami was from his partner who was at his flat while Rachel was resting and deckhard was tackling the last replicant. Indicating his partner let him and Rachel have a chance to disappear
The unicorn is from Gaff - who is basically saying "remember that dream you had, the one of the unicorn? I know all about it because it's a fake memory in your replicant brain"
Deckard get's this reference, makes subtle nod and disappears with Rachel where upon he expects them both to have a 5 year life span.
Of course, we don't see the events between then and now, but when Rachel doesn't expire and Deckard himself doesn't expire - there will have been doubt in Deckard's own "mind" as to if he is a replicant. He knows Rachel is, yet we know/assume she doesn't simply expire - making them both prototype's for what eventually becomes Nexus 8.
 
Some questions...

What was it with Luv crying when Wallace killed that new replicant? I initially thought she was upset he was killing one of her kind. She also cried just before she killed the police lady.

Speaking of which, why did Wallace decide to kill that new replicant after she was "born"? I think he cut her where her womb would be as he was annoyed about the baby?
 
she was emotionally unstable, same with her kissing K after she had finished him off.

The replicant was a failed experiment in making them fertile.
 
I saw it yesterday. Not quite what I expected but I thought it was good, but not stonking good like the vast majority of reviewers have said about it. 7/10
My thoughts:

It should've had the same running time as the original.
It didn't need all that nakedness, the original didn't have hardly any (Zhora getting changed IIRC)
It was visually impressive & dsytopian, like a BR film should be.
It asked more questions than gave answers & it threw me off a couple of times with K thinking he may not be a skinjob after all.
K getting beaten up too much & surviving/recovering. It made him look like Wile E Coyote fergawdssake.
I left thinking how could Deckard & Rachel's child be the solution to Wallace's vision of making replicants that can procreate? She had no immune system, so I assumed that Tyrell designed Rachel to have children with that specific immunity defect so that her 'design' so to speak could not be used by future replicants or their designer for procreation.
 
Watched this at the Timesquare 2D Imax in NY. It's ok but not quite as mind blowing as BR was originally. I would say it's probably a 6-7/10 (5 being average) as it's very Hollywood fayre in terms of blot line.

There doesn't seem to be much more they could have done tbh.
 
/\/\/\/\ I didnt notice. I'll take your word for it, I dont plan on seeing it again soon.
Basically, everything the daughter says about herself is fake - created by Deckard etc to hide the truth of who she is. Remember she grew up as a human boy in an orphanage, she didn't have parents to leave her behind when they went off-world.
 
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