Blu-ray Victorious
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But for the prices blu-ray media goes for, you might as well buy a hard drive... Still has the whole 'HD' ring to it, too. 
But for the prices blu-ray media goes for, you might as well buy a hard drive... Still has the whole 'HD' ring to it, too.
Not that easy usually to remove hard-drives on the fly (yes I know its in the spec for Sata, but not many would actually try it, and you still have the weight/size issue to contend with)
official (ripped from the other thread) - http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm
haha
the Fat Lady has officially Sung. glad that the format war has been won, and to think i nearly bought a HD DVD player just to play the Matrix Trilogy on.
Sony all the way.....................
And to all those saying PS3 is a failure because they didnt ship/sell enough and had to revise figures in share statements blah blah blah.........that does not mean the product is a failure! far from it!
Would you also say that DVD was a failure because in its first few years it was very costly and consumers didnt take to it straight away....?
And to all those saying PS3 is a failure because they didnt ship/sell enough and had to revise figures in share statements blah blah blah.........that does not mean the product is a failure! far from it!
Would you also say that DVD was a failure because in its first few years it was very costly and consumers didnt take to it straight away....?
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what does this mean for xbox? surley the games will soon be way too big for dvd and need the extra space br provide? if not yet what about xbox the third? does sony have to allow them to use there dvds? if not imo xbox doesn't stand a chance
The PS3, by sony's own metrics, is not the success they wanted it to be. Whether that means it's a failure is hard to tell yet, but it has not come close to meeting what they wanted it to meet. (Unless, of course, the real purpose was getting BR into homes...)
Consumers took to DVD well, a better example would be laserdisc.
Games don't need the extra space at all. While they may expand to fill the space (which tends to occur with any large space rather than because the space is needed), the space is not required for current generation games.
And if you think the BR consortium would say no to a BR add-on drive for the 360...
Microsoft will release a Blu-Ray add-on drive, since they haven't released any games on HD-DVD format yet have they?
The only thing will be that Microsoft will probably have to release some kind of Blu-Ray update on XBox Live to enable the add-on and then they'll make some more money from early adopters replacing their HD-DVD drive.
That is if they don't have to make any major hardware changes to use Blu-Ray though.
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I'm finding all this format bias all rather tedious now, although I own both formats in the last 3 months I haven't been compelled to really want anymore HD movies. This is down to the simple fact, I'm kind of sick of hd stuff. I'm not saying they are not worth getting, it's just all this talk and arguments I read about has made me want to steer clear. So I'm currently enjoying cheapo dvds upscaled.
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So your avoiding HD because of arguing on internet forums? Why not just stay off hd forums lol.
an ssd killing off optical surely notfyi - the BBC reported literally the other day that Sony have sold 10.5 million (and yes thats installed in homes) PS3's - and their original prediction was 11 million by the end of the first year......... (in about 6 weeks time then)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252506.stm
remarkebly accurate if you ask me
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7252506.stm
remarkebly accurate if you ask me
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It has been out for over a year already
The targets got revised and they still missed it, don't get the UK launch mixed with the actual first year of sales !But enough already, they revised the target and still missed it by a mile, lets not get started again !
my simplistic take
The fundamental motivation for consumers to move to a new format was better video quality, and codecs being equal (which they are), Blu-Ray has more capacity and thus the ability to store better quality encodes. So... yay
The fundamental motivation for consumers to move to a new format was better video quality, and codecs being equal (which they are), Blu-Ray has more capacity and thus the ability to store better quality encodes. So... yay
Blu-ray is worth it for the lossless audio alone. MGS4 and FF13 will not fit on a DVD. To say that games don't need the extra space at all is simply wrong imo.
Are you talking about lossless compression or uncompressed audio? If it's the latter, very few people have systems that can let them tell the difference, especially that they use regularly with consoles.
With any gaming system, game size tends to expand to that available to the developer, it doesn't always mean that it's better because of it. That some games as they have been developed for the PS3 could not fit on a DVD it doesn't follow that they could not have been made for DVD sized media equally as well. You can write a program that creates a fully textured 3d virtual world and fit it onto a floppy disc, but it will shift the load onto the CPU/GPU in a much larger way.
Do I deny that PS3 developers will use the extra space of Blu-Ray? of course not. What I question is whether the extra space will really enable them to do anything with the end product that they couldn't do on smaller media, or indeed couldn't be done on an X-box or PC equally well without blu-ray.