Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD @ CES

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Kreeeee said:
Why should either format be at CES? We know all about them and there's nothing new to show.
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Er maybe because its the consumer electronics show? The BD manufactures are showing new players/ recorders (hd ones are sulking lol) and also i think the BD association are showing more details on the BD live networking. This BD live is supposed enable you to send stuff from the film to say a mobile phone, it also going to involve some kinda of mini movie so you can copy the film straight to a memory card to play on the PSP, were supposed to hear more about this later at CES.
 
mmj_uk said:
If you look closely in that Bluray photo there's a HD-DVD saboteur on the yellow lamp. :p
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:p

HD-DVD need to come up with something fast IMO even though I personally don't care what format ends up being the format of choice
 
Smit said:
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HD-DVD need to come up with something fast IMO even though I personally don't care what format ends up being the format of choice
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They can't go anywhere at this stage. I've got two hd-dvd players but just can't see anything being done about it now, other than helping hd-dvd owners shift over to the blu-ray camp.

Right now my only choice is to veer towards dual format players mid 2008, as right now there's still plenty of good films on hd-dvd for me.
 
Bearing in mind the image is from 'BluRayFreak' it's fair to say that the level of bias is fairly high, how do we know that the HD stand picture wasn't taken at some stupidly early or late hour, whilst the BR picture taken during peak time, it's a bit of a pointless fanboi thing really, nothing more.

msmalls74 said:
Er maybe because its the consumer electronics show? The BD manufactures are showing new players/ recorders (hd ones are sulking lol) and also i think the BD association are showing more details on the BD live networking. This BD live is supposed enable you to send stuff from the film to say a mobile phone, it also going to involve some kinda of mini movie so you can copy the film straight to a memory card to play on the PSP, were supposed to hear more about this later at CES.
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I'll believe it when i see it, i'd be amazed if movie companies gave away versions of the movie to be used on a PSP unless it's with a premium added to the cost of the disk. Mobile phone streaming will also add a premium to the already expensive hardware.

Sounds like typical Sony hype machine to me, the end product is usually dissapointing compared to what you want it to be.
 
Kainz said:
They can't go anywhere at this stage. I've got two hd-dvd players but just can't see anything being done about it now, other than helping hd-dvd owners shift over to the blu-ray camp.

Right now my only choice is to veer towards dual format players mid 2008, as right now there's still plenty of good films on hd-dvd for me.
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Aye, I've been the most ardent supporter of hd-dvd but as it stands there's nothing to be done.

With about 1 million stand alone players it's been a costly exercise for everyone but I think WB had seen the numbers and realised that in truth hard copy hd would never really be anything more than a niche product so better to have one niche than two.

I really don't think DVD is going anywhere anytime soon and I think this news cements that. By the time blu-ray becomes truly affordable with new fabrication plants, $100 players and the support of independent studios I'd fully expect the many download services starting up to have taken off. HD-DVD was the only real chance for HD to take off with the masses with cheaper players ($150 this year), 51GB single sku combi-discs, cheaper replication and a more recognisable name. Don't get me wrong it's good that we're down to one format I'm just concerned that we've taken a step back with a still incomplete spec, more expensive, console dominated one. He-ho.
 
Definitely does seem like a step back. Still, things could change in the next 12 months. Price normally wins these things. If they can get sub 150$ HD-DVD drives flying off the shelves then things might look up.
 
D.P. said:
Definitely does seem like a step back. Still, things could change in the next 12 months. Price normally wins these things. If they can get sub 150$ HD-DVD drives flying off the shelves then things might look up.
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Not a chance - HD DVD is dead in the water - sales of HD DVD equipment will now drop like a stone as people start to realise that the format is now pretty much dead.

What it will take is studios that previosuly supported blu-ray only moving over to HDDVD - not very likely.
 
Abooie said:
I really don't think DVD is going anywhere anytime soon .
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Undoubtedly correct, the market is way too huge to transfer over night (even over-year :) )


Abooie said:
By the time blu-ray becomes truly affordable with new fabrication plants, $100 players and the support of independent studios I'd fully expect the many download services starting up to have taken off. HD-DVD was the only real chance for HD to take off with the masses with cheaper players ($150 this year), 51GB single sku combi-discs, cheaper replication and a more recognisable name. Don't get me wrong it's good that we're down to one format I'm just concerned that we've taken a step back with a still incomplete spec, more expensive, console dominated one. He-ho.
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Duplication isnt that much more expensive on BR - I have seen reasonable shop prices for both HD media (around £10 on the street) , Im the first to admit this is rare, but it is possible - just depends how greedy the studio wants to be for that film

Not sure where you get the pricing of players from - HD-DVD stand alone players are approximately £200 and I honestly dont think they will become much cheaper than that, new players will come out with more capabilities at the same kind of price (or until toshiba especially kill off the design in which case end of life pricing isnt really relevant) I am sure by the middle of the year if not before BR stand-alone pricing will be around the same as they are already less than £300 with only a few manufacturers producing them (of course PC drives are already pretty cheap)

You would be surprised how many times I have heard the general public talking about blu-ray on the london tube system, it may not be similar to the last format, but its still uniquely recognisable.

You of course realise that the amount of X360 Hd-DVD drives has increased the number of this format considerably - surely as much "console dominated" as BR

51GB Hd-DVD discs are at about the same stage as 200GB BR ones...... :)
 
Tea well and truely out?
Paramount Studios could soon drop its support of HD DVD following Warner's recent backing of Sony's Blu-ray technology, effectively killing off HD-DVD and bring the format war to a definitive end.
According to the Financial Times, in a story that broke only a few hours ago, Paramount is understood to have a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to switch sides in the event of Warner backing Blu-ray.

Paramount and DreamWorks Animation came out in support of HD DVD last summer, joining Universal Studios as the main supporters of the Toshiba format.

Warner's decision last week to exclusively back Blu-ray saw it join Walt Disney, 20th Century Fox and MGM Studios as backers of the Sony format. The recent move gives Blu-ray about 70 per cent of Hollywood's output. Universal meanwhile, has declined to comment on its next-generation DVD plans and speculation is rife that an announcement at CES by Bill Gates unveiling an Ultimate Xbox 360 with a built-in HD DVD player was cancelled at the last minute following the move by Warner
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http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/01/08/paramount_poised_to_drop_hd_dvd/
 
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