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I have recently completed a format and fresh install of XP with no problems (following baddass list) up untill now.

I tried to install a program that controls the speed of my GPU fan (SmartDoctor) but just into the install the screen freezes and I'm faced with the blue screen of death.

After looking into it as much as possible I have done the following but with no joy....

  • Used Driver Cleaner and instaled latest graphics drivers
  • Increased pagfile size
  • Cleaned the registry
  • Defraged (Diskeeper)
  • Checked all other drivers

I may have done more but cant remember at the mo but I'm still left with the problem.

I turned off auto restart to get the STOP message which is at the bottom.

Thanks.

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this one says its a driver problem. i would crack out driver cleaner and completely remove the drivers for your gfx card and use the windows default svga driver reboot a couple of times then download and reinstall the latest drivers from ATI.
 
This is all I seemed to do yet it was still causing problems and saying it was a driver issue so I did what I do best in these situations.....

GIVE UP AND FORMAT :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's not all that bad because I had only just finished a fresh install and was still setup for it so it didn't take me to long but this time I'm gonna go slow and watch what I do when it comes to drivers.

Thanks for ya help.
 
Well after yet another fresh install I thought this time I had got rid of the problem but guess what.....IT'S BACK.

I have now isolated the problem and it's down to one program I try to install. The program is Asus SmartDoctor and is an app designed to monitor the temp of the gfx card and you are also able to control the speed of the fan over the GPU. It works along side the drivers instaled for the gfx card and has worked for me in the past no trouble.

But this time it's being a git and cant understand why? :mad:

I have instaled other programs so far with no issues.

I'm using the most recent omega drivers and the recent smartdoc but even when I tried to go back to the old ver I used it still failed on me.

I have tried all that I can think of but am left clueless once again. :confused:

BigBoy's second link says it's possibly a nVidia problem yet theres no nVidia on my machine so now what?

Please help me Obi-Wan Kenobi your my only hope.
 
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BigBoy said:
Is The motherboard Nforce based? do you use the onboard Nic? and nvidia firewall as this is knows to cause problems.
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The MB is Shuttle and NIC is used. No nVidia firewall in use, no firewall except router.
 
BigBoy said:
what type of shuttle?? p4? amd? via? what drivers do you have installed befor you install the gfx card and software?
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P4. The gfx is Radeon x700 and the software I have always used is Omega drivers.

Doing a little trouble shooting I have found that when I try to load Asus SmartDoctor whether it's on my desktop or an older ver on CD it freezes and the blue screen appears however when any other app is loaded again cd or machine everything runs fine.

So it's something to do with this one app or gfx card is faulty.
 
BigBoy said:
are you installing the latest intel motherboard drivers and agp/pci-e drivers before you install the gfx card drivers/software?
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I install the latest chipset drivers first but am not installing pci-e drivers.....didn't know they excisted? Noob at work here so be gentle if this seems stupid.
 
first of whats the complete spek of the shuttle system you are running?
CPU type and speed
shuttle model number.
ammount of RAM and type of ram also how many sticks
GFX card
anyother cards tvcard
harddrive type PATA or SATA.

once we know what the setup is then maybe we can help some more as some shuttle systems tend to be a little picky about other hardware especialy RAM.
 
  • Shuttle XPC SB83G5
  • P4 3Ghz
  • 1Gb RAM (2 Sticks)
  • 2 x WD SATA Drives (120 & 60)
  • Radeon X700 PCI-E GFX Card
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Sound Card

As for the memory test....no not yet. Not sure on what software to use.
 
memtest86 is the only thing i would use to test ram. remove one stick and run with just a 512mb of ram boot off the memtest floppy and leave it running an extended or advanced test over night to see if that brings up any errors.

here is the version of memtest you need.


extract the zip to a folder and run the install.bat file and create the floppy disk. Once thats done reboot the machine and make the comp boot from the floppy disk and follow the software and it will tell you what to do.
 
BigBoy said:
memtest86 is the only thing i would use to test ram. remove one stick and run with just a 512mb of ram boot off the memtest floppy and leave it running an extended or advanced test over night to see if that brings up any errors.

here is the version of memtest you need.


extract the zip to a folder and run the install.bat file and create the floppy disk. Once thats done reboot the machine and make the comp boot from the floppy disk and follow the software and it will tell you what to do.
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To the shops I go (no floppy disc in sight). With 2 drives in a shuttle leaves no room for a floppy drive so it's of with the case yet again.

Give me a couple days with this and await response.

Thanks :)
 
Asus Smartdoctor is know to be be very buggy. Never used it as would cause BSODs in vertain scenarios.

Best to use RivaTuner as more options. http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8

Go to the Asus website as there is an updated Smartdoctor from Jan06.

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Best method to determine if this is even the issue is to install everything else & update all your system drivers then try installing Smartdoctor very last of all. If it BSODs you have isolated the problem and can reboot then hit F8 and select last know config to avoid another reinstall (which would be a waste of time when XP creates a restore point for you automatically).
 
Thanks for the memtest boot cd. Had it running for about 2 hrs with no errors found but i'm not sure how long I should run it for, overnight maybe?

I played CS for over an hour with no problems at all so the gfx card is working fine so it's all coming down to this one app.

Overall everything is running fine, all apps load and run with no problem.

All I was looking for is an app that controlled the fan speed of the gfx card and asus smartdoctor done that very simple for me.

AWPC recommendation of RivaTuner does this one thing and more but it's a little beyond my wee brain cos it's all in the registry and having attempted to try it I failed as always. ATITool also does this and more but it doesn't set to the setting I want meaning I have to go into it everytime I reboot unlike smartdoc.

I'm willing to do away with this app if I can find a similar one however it would be good to have it back which brings us right back to the problem in hand :(
 
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