Blueyonder 25Mb

[Avalon]

None of the trialists I know of are even aware or involved in 25mbit trials and simply put they would have seen details/be involved if it was being done.

It will happen eventually but afaik that will be more in line with the LLU progress but it's not even gone to the internal trialling stage yet and will not be dropped into a live environment without going to selected internal testers first.

NTL are doing product harmonisation on BBI products so yes they will do the same in the same way they did with 10mbit etc. though this is traditionally done slightly slower than the TW side.

 

[tolien]

I have a BT insider whos been upgrading some exchanges in the UK North-East to LLU...

LLU = 24MB.

Drivel, but I said that the last time you posted it.

 

[ste_bla]

I have a BT insider whos been upgrading some exchanges in the UK North-East to LLU...

LLU = 24MB.

I thought LLU just means other networks equipment..

ADSL2 = 24MB

And wouldnt the LLU provider upgrade/install the equipment rather than someone @ bt?

 

[tolien]

I thought LLU just means other networks equipment..

And wouldnt the LLU provider upgrade/install the equipment rather than someone @ bt?

Indeed, on both counts.

ADSL2 = 24MB

ADSL2 = 12Mbps, ADSL2+ = 24Mbps.

 

[A[L]C]

Paul you know me lol,


We met at lan se a while back, cuople of years.

I bought bits an pieces off of you from at your parents house, near the vw garage, i lived in wycombe then,

have moved to the posh end of altwood road

ahhh its u... you still on my msn? what was your nick back then? cocopops or was that someone else? lol my memory is rubbish!

 

[SinaiSound]

Grrrr, it angers me enough that I can't get cable atm, but if this rumour is true it will annoy me even more!

The depressing thing is that I'm within spitting distance of somewhere that can get cable, but NTL didn't bother to wire up the new estate where I'm living

 

[wod_uk]

i know they up the speeds but dont expand there network alittle as i would love to have cable

 

[chris06]

Does anyone know if any of the cable companys have plans to widen their networks? Or would it cost too much?

 

[Imy]

I'm on the NTL 10Mbit package and the download speeds are pretty good. A tiny bit under 1.2MB/s on newsgroups pretty much constant.

However for my job as a web developer its quite annoying having to put up with a much slower upload speed in comparison. Its still very high compared to many other broadband packages, but another way to look at it is upload speeds in the entire home broadband market are too slow.

I wish that with all these new planned upgrades they make some changes to the upload bandwidth. 1:1 would be nice

 

[Vulcan]

However for my job as a web developer its quite annoying having to put up with a much slower upload speed in comparison.

Indeed, I would rather have 10/10 than 25/0.5

 

[Datamonkey]

ahhh its u... you still on my msn? what was your nick back then? cocopops or was that someone else? lol my memory is rubbish!

coco pops is somone else lol.

not sure if i am on ya msn or not now dude, been quite a while lol.

you still with the outfit on the cressex ind estate lol.

im head of an IT team at luton airport now

 

[Datamonkey]

to take it back on topic,

Yeah it is annoying about cable companies not installing sub systems on a new estate, really is stupid.

I can understand some older places like where i live. But still i live on a snobs road and as such i want better internet access lol

4mb by bt is ok at the moment, but i want cable back.

 

[A[L]C]

coco pops is somone else lol.

not sure if i am on ya msn or not now dude, been quite a while lol.

you still with the outfit on the cressex ind estate lol.

im head of an IT team at luton airport now

add me to msn, [email protected]

sorry for the off topic everyone

 

[Duke]

Does anyone know if any of the cable companys have plans to widen their networks? Or would it cost too much?

They have just about cleared the debt they have had over the last 10+years. I would guess in a year or two when things even out they will expand again.

 

[Avalon]

IIRC they can't dig w/in 3 years of a new road being developed w/out a pretty hefty charge from local govt. so as stated little or no new network is going to be built in the short term (next 12 months). Different rules apply in Scotland to the rest of the UK just to make it even more frustrating and the government is/was trying to push through yet more legislation to make it even more costly to dig up any road.

The only cases where a new development is cabled is in cases where the CC's are approached by the developer and it's financially viable to do at the point of developing the site/estate. One developer who shall remain nameless even used to chuck in 12 months TV service with each new property, and not just the basic pack either!

As for 1:1 speeds you need to understand this will not happen due to the way the majority of cable networks are constructed not just here but worldwide. Upload bandwidth is at a premium on the network, download bandwidth is abundant, the kind of symetrical speed you are suggesting is not going to be supportedf on an aysametric network without major technology advances this is not going to change any time soon.

 

[Big Kev]

have moved to the posh end of altwood road

I used to go to Altwood school back in the seventies, has it improved??

I used to live in Littlewick Green as well and played cricket against Cox Green, brings back memories.

Anyway, it'll be good to have 25mb, but the price is a bugbear at the moment, I think I'd rather stick with 10mb for £20.

 

[milkinc13]

what's the point for speeds of 25Mb and 100Mb, there not needed currently, but if IPTV takes off then I can understand it or ** running a serious home network with mutiple users.

 

[Avalon]

what's the point for speeds of 25Mb and 100Mb, there not needed currently, but if IPTV takes off then I can understand it or ** running a serious home network with mutiple users.

As technology improves the possible uses for that technology advance in complexity, even something as basic as windows update takes hours on 512k (hell downloading SP2 atm is going to take the best part of 45mins atm on 2mbit). It's not that long since 512k was £50 and 'amazing'.

Then programs grew in complexity and size and took longer to download, individual web pages grew in size by several 1000% Distributed Computing tasks became possible, emailing decent size pic's etc to family became a task taking a few minutes rather than a few hours to upload and the same to download. Online gaming became a realistic proposition, voip became a practical option, as is video conferencing. I can now work from home reasonably efficiently (saving is still slow for large files), subscription based media content will become widespread, web radio is now common place etc etc etc. My home is covered by web based CCTV (if i cba to use it) so I can keep an eye on things from anywhere in the world. I can stream my (legally purchased/owned) mp3's to work so I can listen to them when I want (I have a very understanding boss).

Bottom line if you give me the speed I will find a way of using it to my benefit.

 

[tolien]

Bear in mind the higher the headline speed, the lower the average you get becomes. You aren't going to see 25Mbps or 100Mbps or anything like the thing at any time other than the small hours of the morning (if that).

 

[Avalon]

Got to say that goes against what i've found in the past with the exception of adsl max but that's a known side affect. I've almost always been able to achieve pretty close to my theoretical max download speed with multiple downloads be it on fixed speed adsl or cable. I'd expect pretty close to 3150k a sec out of 25mbit with enough pipes going and 1260k/s out of 100mbit but it would take some work by todays standards to max that out.