BMW and M Power Owners

Scottland said:
For instance the Deezer built in app is brilliant, but requires a specific subscription to use it even if you have an existing Deezer subscription
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can you not put your own sim in the car, as you can for audi ? so that you can nonetheless benefit from the cars potentially better aerial connection/4g-bandwidth
(I'm currently reasearching if it's practical to stream tidal flacs)
 
jpaul said:
can you not put your own sim in the car, as you can for audi ? so that you can nonetheless benefit from the cars potentially better aerial connection/4g-bandwidth
(I'm currently reasearching if it's practical to stream tidal flacs)
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Not that I'm aware of, it's tied into BMW's online services. My wife's Volvo has a SIM card which allows the Spotify app to run independently of the phone and works pretty well.

I'm quite happy with android auto on my phone these days, Google will pick up most commands I bark at it.
 
Finally got round to editing a few videos from our trip to Germany in September. Second and final lap of the weekend on the 'ring. Didn't go chasing times, but having timed this and my other lap last night from the videos, i think i was on for a 9m30 bridge to gantry on this one, before the yellow flags.

More than one occasion where you hear Adam (co-driver, friend) is more concerned about me crashing my car than I was :eek:

 
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Steedie said:
Seen exactly that while waiting for my old F10 to be serviced. The guy outside was swapping between a wash mitt and towel, and just chucking whatever he wasn't using on the floor and then using it and dumping the other thing. It made me wince thinking of the damage he was causing

Merc scratched my car when I took it in to them for it's first service. A nice scratch on the rear panel, that when the detailer looked at it, said it looked like they'd try to fix it and really made a mess of the paint work, luckily it came out with a paint correction but still... I tried to argue my case when I noticed it at the time but they said it wasn't them and unfortunately as I had no before picture, I had no chance.
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Update on this, after a bit more chasing I had a call from a detailing company today and they will be detailing the car this weekend, hopefully that will be the end of it and a happy outcome.

I think in future I will decline any future offers of a clean when it's in for a service!
 
Really quick one as I'm a bit new to auto boxes (and stop start)

If I pull up to some lights (in D) and stop, the engine cuts off (with stop/start on). If I then move the lever into N, the engine starts again. Why?!

I was always under the impression you shouldn't really leave the gearbox in D when stationary (I know this doesn't really make a difference when the engine turns off) but I'm used to putting the gearbox in neutral when stationary for a long (ish) time. I guess with stop/start, it's designed to keep it in D? (or P?)

And if the engine turns on again (like when I move into N), is there a way to force the engine off again (back into stop/start mode)?
 
yup, it's weird...

pull on the handbrake and lift the throttle and it will fire up again (and almost feels like it's trying to pull against the handbrake) - this just seems mad to me.

The only options I know of are either keep foot on brake, or press P and lift off the brake (and can get a weird rocking sensation as the car rolls a couple inches), and then have to reapply the brake to select the gear to move off, which will fire up the engine.

Once the engine has fired up once it needs to move a bit to refill the starting circuit, so only thing you can do is the start/stop button...

A friend has an auto Merc. and he only needs to press the foot brake when stationary to apply an e-brake and then can raise his foot off the brake without the car firing up, or pulling away. Only does anything when the throttle is pressed again - which makes a lot more sense.
 
Shadowness said:
Really quick one as I'm a bit new to auto boxes (and stop start)

If I pull up to some lights (in D) and stop, the engine cuts off (with stop/start on). If I then move the lever into N, the engine starts again. Why?!

I was always under the impression you shouldn't really leave the gearbox in D when stationary (I know this doesn't really make a difference when the engine turns off) but I'm used to putting the gearbox in neutral when stationary for a long (ish) time. I guess with stop/start, it's designed to keep it in D? (or P?)

And if the engine turns on again (like when I move into N), is there a way to force the engine off again (back into stop/start mode)?
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You have to leave it in D for the stop/start to function. These modern autoboxes are very clever and they will automatically engage neutral whilst stop/start is working, but they're so smooth you don't feel it with the ZF8. It's the same with the coast function that's enabled with Eco Pro mode...once you're moving above 30mph if you lift off the throttle (provided you're not approaching a tight corner, roundabout, etc. - the gearbox is also linked to the satnav so it knows what's coming up) the gearbox automatically puts the car in neutral so you have no mechanical drag from the drivetrain allowing you to roll much further and thus save fuel. When you press the throttle the gearbox seamlessly engages drive again.

In the M-DCT, because it's much less refined than the ZF8 you can hear and feel the gearbox clunk into neutral and drive during the stop/start sequence, but it lacks the coasting function of the ZF8.
 
I knew about the coasting in eco mode, I'm already having to adjust my driving style a bit as the car rolls so well as there's no engine braking.

Is it also quite normal for the car to pull away quite quickly when moving off? (in normal driving mode). I've had it a few times when pulling out of a space in a car park, let off the brake, and I would expect the car to creep forward, but quite often it almost lunges forward.

Good to know that to use start/stop, either keep it in D (or put it in P).
 
I just put mine in P when at the lights, handbrake on and then foot off the brake. Then when it goes green, handbrake off, foot on the brake and put it into D and drive away.

I know the handbrake part is not necessary but it’s habbit, plus I still have a manual car.
 
Dis86 said:
From memory it ain't the brakes holding the car. It's the gearbox.
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Correct. The car also has an auto-hold/hill start system, so when you let of the brakes the car will remain stationary until you apply the throttle...the brakes are automatically held on until you press the throttle pedal to prevent rolling backwards.
 
Shadowness said:
I knew about the coasting in eco mode, I'm already having to adjust my driving style a bit as the car rolls so well as there's no engine braking.
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Does it turn the engine off too (guess that would be illegal) ?; if not, compared to coasting in highest gear to a stop, where, it also stops injecting fuel, it could be less eco.
 
No it goes into idle.

I did wonder that as normally, as you say, rolling in gear (in a manual car) turns the injectors off, so uses no fuel. Putting it in neutral will still use some fuel to stop the engine stalling obviously.
But I would assume BMW know their stuff and it is more beneficial to idle rather than roll in gear.
 
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