BMW E46 Touring.

If you want a nice reliable, modern premium feeling estate around the 4k mark, then imo the Accord should be top of your list.

The Diesel is excellent, the exec comes with everything, touch screen nav,electric leather seats, remote tailgate, and ok its FWD, but it doesnt handle badly at all. I think its one of the bigger estates out there aswell.
 
Morba said:
How come? Back to your old 530 or another one?
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It rattled, it was unrefined, it rattled, it wasn't a 5 Series and it rattled. So I sold it and went back to the E39 :p

Morba said:
Other than economy and perceived savings over a petrol, what reasons do people have for preferring a diesel over petrol version of a car?
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Flywheel torque. It's awesome for bragging down the pub to people who dont understand what torque actually is.
 
Tinders said:
Would you rather a small petrol running at +4k revs on the motorway or a diesel doing 2k revs, thats a scenario for me where diesel is better than petrol.
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It also seems to be a bit of a made up scenario.

Which car does 4000rpm @ 70mph in petrol form yet the equivilent diesel does 2000rpm @ 70mph?

And we are talking about a Honda Accord, which doesnt have a 'small petrol' engine.
 
Im exaggerating a touch yes, but point still stands, there are times when a diseasal as hateful as it is, is a better bet than the equivalent asthmatic petrol. 320d is better than a 318i. As is the Accord CDTI vs the 2.0 ivtec.

Anyway, apologies for digressing, but Vita, is looking for MPG aswell, where a diesel, in the Accord anyway, will be much better. But yes for his mileage diesel isnt required.
 
Tinders said:
Im exaggerating a touch yes, but point still stands, there are times when a diseasal as hateful as it is, is a better bet than the equivalent asthmatic petrol. 320d is better than a 318i. As is the Accord CDTI vs the 2.0 ivtec.
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The 2.0 (or 2.4) iVTEC engines are quiet and refined. There is simply no need to go for a diesel Accord for his mileage. The petrol Honda engines are excellent and more importantly are nice and quiet around town, too. The early Accord iCTDI's are frought with issues anyway and not even particularly economical.

It's not as if the choice is a nice big 3 litre diesel OR a 1.1 litre Saxo, is it?
 
I thought, like the M57, the swirl flaps were metal, not plastic, until 2007ish, the metal ones being far more prone to causing engine damage. Plastic ones shouldn't be an issue at all in theory.
 
The flaps themselves are plastic, but the metal fixings which fall into the engine when the flaps break up are what causes the expensive damage.
 
Tinders said:
Im exaggerating a touch yes, but point still stands, there are times when a diseasal as hateful as it is, is a better bet than the equivalent asthmatic petrol. 320d is better than a 318i. As is the Accord CDTI vs the 2.0 ivtec.
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I'd rather have the petrol in both instances. And the 2.0 iVTEC is a wonderful engine, regardless.
 
I'm currently looking at VW Passat Estates..TDI's. I quite like the look of them and the loadspace they offer is fantastic. The Honda accord is a good car, but I would like something german now.
 
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