Bomb in NYC

Hades · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:10

Yes I'm still surprised we have bins again at busy train stations. They were removed due to the bomb threat but seem to have crept back in, albeit with clear liners.

Arazi · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:21

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
I think the proof is in the pudding!
Judging by the videos and previous data of pressure cooker bombs it's pretty damn clear that the dumpster helped contain the explosion and reduce casualties, hence thankfully no deaths.
Had the bomb been placed next to the bin rather than in it I doubt we would have been as lucky.
Why they did this I don't know, just seems bizarre if your main goal was to kill as many people as possible?!?

Tell you what, let's say the bin did cause the bomb to do less damage, less casualties etc etc, but, that was not because the person who put it in the bin in the first place thought "hmm, i'm feeling a bit guilty, i'll stick it in this bin because it will cause less casualties and damage"

If people believe that, they have a problem.

e: Also there has been a second one found close to where the first went off, as we all know that is a classic terrorist tactic, 1st bomb kills and maims, 2nd bomb kills and maims the rescuers, i think that stamps all over your good natured terrorist.

Caged · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:28

Hey I wonder how this thread will develop

b0redj0rd · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:28

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
I think the proof is in the pudding!
Judging by the videos and previous data of pressure cooker bombs it's pretty damn clear that the dumpster helped contain the explosion and reduce casualties, hence thankfully no deaths.
Had the bomb been placed next to the bin rather than in it I doubt we would have been as lucky.
Why they did this I don't know, just seems bizarre if your main goal was to kill as many people as possible?!?

Username checks out.

foster grant · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:42

Maybe some biuldings will fall down

robgmun · 18 Sep 2016 at 13:48

Mynight said:
Well we cant expect every terrorist to have a second half of their brain can we.

Time will tell but it seems counterproductive to set off a bomb aiming to minimize damage.

Just thankful no ones dead afaik.

It's possible its set off before it was supposed to and they were going to move it to a more prominent place later and this was just the hiding place. It became unstable and bamb!

bingham67 · 18 Sep 2016 at 14:25

Looks like whoever did this is going to get caught as they got one intact which will have all evidence they need according to BBC

The US has a dedicated laboratory where forensic scientists analyse the remains of every significant explosive device the security services recover.

Tiny fragments of a detonated device can be enough to pinpoint how it was made - and potentially who made it. Two years ago the US scientists had a major victory when their painstaking work uncovered evidence that proved that a London taxi driver had made bombs in Iraq that killed a soldier.

Arazi · 18 Sep 2016 at 14:47

bingham67 said:
Looks like whoever did this is going to get caught as they got one intact which will have all evidence they need according to BBC

I would be not be surprised if they have got whoever they are on CCTV also, i am pretty sure you cannot avoid cctv somewhere like that.

Arazi · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:20

Just listening to press conference and they say there is no evidence of international terrorism, but it is early days.

BlueMerle · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:26

nitram100 said:
This kind of thing will win Trump the election.

Yep.

When we see all the folks on the left running around screaming 'racist' at anyone that suggests this is the work of Islamic terrorists, or flat out denying that it was terrorist related, it doesn't engender a sense of security among the masses.... who are perfectly capable of seeing the truth for themselves.

I guess this makes me a racist and/or a deplorable. I need to get the T-shirt now.

D.P. · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:27

Mynight said:
Well we cant expect every terrorist to have a second half of their brain can we.

Time will tell but it seems counterproductive to set off a bomb aiming to minimize damage.

Just thankful no ones dead afaik.

The IRA sometimes did this, or would call ahead of time to get the area cleared. If you are fighting a perceived political cause then it can make sense to minimize casualties but do soe thing that acts as a strong warning and prove capability.

deuse · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:32

NoobCannon said:
Plot twist, maybe someone picked it up and put it in the dumpster thinking it was left by the bin by some lazy ***.

Im also gonna go with 90% likleyhood of islamist terrorists but due to the overzealous moderation of these threads usually resulting in suspension will leave it at that!

+2

Mr Jack · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:33

All 29 injured released from hospital. That's great news.

Rroff · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:36

D.P. said:
The IRA sometimes did this, or would call ahead of time to get the area cleared. If you are fighting a perceived political cause then it can make sense to minimize casualties but do soe thing that acts as a strong warning and prove capability.

Yeah. The IRA was a bit more complex though - some believed they were fighting a war and only military/establishment targets were fair game while others were happy to blow up anyone and anything.

This seems to be a bit more of a shot across the bows so wonder what the truth of it is.

D.P. · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:38

BlueMerle said:
Yep.

When we see all the folks on the left running around screaming 'racist' at anyone that suggests this is the work of Islamic terrorists, or flat out denying that it was terrorist related, it doesn't engender a sense of security among the masses.... who are perfectly capable of seeing the truth for themselves.

I guess this makes me a racist and/or a deplorable. I need to get the T-shirt now.

Depends if you you to give up and let the terrorists win then you can vote for Trump and his ridiculous xenophobic policies letting the Terrorists know they are winning.

Or you can grow a spine, stand up for your freedoms and signal the terrorists to screw themselves, the west won't roll over and give in to their barbaric tactics.

Terminal_Boy · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:38

D.P. said:
The IRA sometimes did this, or would call ahead of time to get the area cleared. If you are fighting a perceived political cause then it can make sense to minimize casualties but do soe thing that acts as a strong warning and prove capability.

Of course, the IRA also carried out the double bombing at Omah, which was planned specifically to target the emergency services responding to the first bomb.

Mynight · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:39

Must admit I'm suprised to see no conspiracy theories about it yet.

Good point about the IRA had forgotten.

D.P. · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:40

Terminal_Boy said:
Of course, the IRA also carried out the double bombing at Omah, which was planned specifically to target the emergency services responding to the first bomb.

Of course, I'm not defending the IRA in the slightest. Christian terrorists have killed far more British people than any Muslims.

I'm just saying that there can be logical reasons to have bomb purposely cause more minor damage. There are also reasons why that wasn't the intention at all, maybe they were just not that smart.

BlueMerle · 18 Sep 2016 at 15:50

D.P. said:
Depends if you you to give up and let the terrorists win then you can vote for Trump and his ridiculous xenophobic policies letting the Terrorists know they are winning.

Or you can grow a spine, stand up for your freedoms and signal the terrorists to screw themselves, the west won't roll over and give in to their barbaric tactics.

And you think a vote for Hillary is "growing a spine"??

lol....

nst68 · 18 Sep 2016 at 16:16

My son works on a cruise ship and they've just docked in NY.

I know logic says he'll be ok, but as a parent I can't help worrying