Poll: BOTW Weekly Results Round H - Human

[Street]

In actual fact, to run through my opinion:

Sonea - 5 points
feek - 0 points
Ahleckz - 0 points
maccy - 0 points
kuros - 0 points

I'd agree with this. Sonea 5 points as thrapple appears in the dictionary and fits with forum rules. Kuros 0 as beard isn't a body part, Maccy 0 as it's the brewery name, Ahleckz 0 as it doesn't fit forum rules and Feek 0 as it doesn't fit forum rules and faced isn't a body part.

 

[DirtyJester]

well, if appearing in the dictionary is the criteria "noir" should count as it's a common use word for black - I don't agree with it but you can't allow one because it's in the dictionary and then say another doesn't count if it's in the dictionary...

This has been covered, Noir had it's poll and the vote went against it.

surely 4? Gilly's scoring is different to yours so he disagrees too...

Correct, I didn't count in Ahleckz as it would appear the poll will only consist of him.

if you are allowing slang words it needs to clarified what is acceptable and what is not and where the line is/what it is judged against - imo it's all or nothing

Every entry is a gamble. You can either play safe or take a risk. It's your call.

 

[the_r_sole]

This has been covered, Noir had it's poll and the vote went against it.

Exactly but now the criteria that were ruled out previously (i.e. being common use and in the dictionary) are being used to justify an entry in a subsequent round, either it counts or it doesn't

Every entry is a gamble. You can either play safe or take a risk. It's your call.

not really, if we knew that the word had to appear in the dictionary and be in common use then it's not a risk and easy to justify.

If the rules change per round and one gets ruled out for one reason and then that same reason is used to justify another as valid it becomes impossible to make a call

 

[Anchundan]

not really, if we knew that the word had to appear in the dictionary and be in common use then it's not a risk and easy to justify.

If the rules change per round and one gets ruled out for one reason and then that same reason is used to justify another as valid it becomes impossible to make a call

This was my point in post 41 - the rules don't say 'no foreign words'. The rules should be clear, whatever is decided.

Edit: so less time bickering, more time drinking! This is supposed to be fun!

 

[Gilly]

well, if appearing in the dictionary is the criteria "noir" should count as it's a common use word for black - I don't agree with it but you can't allow one because it's in the dictionary and then say another doesn't count if it's in the dictionary...

That's not the common usage for it in English though. Noir is black in French, but not in English. The common usage for noir in English is Film Noir and that's a specific genre and not the colour

The word itself would arguably be allowed, but it was entered as a colour

 

[DirtyJester]

Exactly but now the criteria that were ruled out previously (i.e. being common use and in the dictionary) are being used to justify an entry in a subsequent round, either it counts or it doesn't

That's not the case at all.

 

[the_r_sole]

That's not the common usage for it in English though. Noir is black in French, but not in English. The common usage for noir in English is Film Noir and that's a specific genre and not the colour

The word itself would arguably be allowed, but it was entered as a colour

don't disagree, but meaning of noir as black is pretty well known and it's kinda what it means in the context of film too, so how far does it go?

The word appearing in the dictionary can't be used for one and not the other to justify it imo

I'm not arguing that anything should/shouldn't get points, jsut that there has to be consistency in the judging.
We can't even post the name of a beer in this round so how can that even be judged, common usage or not

 

[the_r_sole]

That's not the case at all.

correct me if i'm wrong but i seem to remember whoever posted the noir entry also posting an image of it in the dictionary and being told that that wasn't a valid way to validate the entry. Now we have a round where an entry has been validated by way of appearing in the dictionary as a slang term

 

[R-evans]

correct me if i'm wrong but i seem to remember whoever posted the noir entry also posting an image of it in the dictionary and being told that that wasn't a valid way to validate the entry. Now we have a round where an entry has been validated by way of appearing in the dictionary as a slang term

But the dictionary doesn't say 'Noir - The colour black' does it?

 

[DirtyJester]

correct me if i'm wrong but i seem to remember whoever posted the noir entry also posting an image of it in the dictionary and being told that that wasn't a valid way to validate the entry. Now we have a round where an entry has been validated by way of appearing in the dictionary as a slang term

The person that entered it was Wez, as for the rest can you find it please?

 

[the_r_sole]

But the dictionary doesn't say 'Noir - The colour black' does it?

depends which dictionary http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/noir

noir
[nwar]
Spell Syllables
Examples
adjective, French.
1.
black; noting the black numbers in roulette.

 

[the_r_sole]

The person that entered it was Wez, as for the rest can you find it please?

sorry, have just looked and it was the gold/blonde ones where the dictionary came out

and the noir one seemed to just be because it was foreign - it was the competition name that was questioned

and we're getting further away from the crux - if slang is allowed and words that you can't type on the forum, are they ok as long as they appear in the dictionary, and if it's a slang phrase does that have to appear in the dictionary or just in common use? what about something that appears in the urban dictionary, would that count as proof of being commonly used? where's the cut off for valid slang entries?

 

[Gilly]

sorry, have just looked and it was the gold/blonde ones where the dictionary came out

and the noir one seemed to just be because it was foreign - it was the competition name that was questioned

It is foreign. It was entered as a colour.

 

[the_r_sole]

It is foreign. It was entered as a colour.

true, but it does also appear in a dictionary and there was nothing to expressly discount foreign words prior to that round

and i'm not really arguing that one - just the use of the dictionary to justify an entry that can't appear on the forum and is a slang term

 

[R-evans]

and we're getting further away from the crux

and i'm not really arguing that one - just the use of the dictionary to justify an entry that can't appear on the forum and is a slang term

I'm confused

What part of this round are you actually referring to? As to me it seems like you are going off on a tangent.

 

[rubberduck]

Black isn't a colour anyway so a bit of a moot point.

 

[DirtyJester]

Black isn't a colour anyway so a bit of a moot point.

Already covered prior to colour round and after it.

Since you're posting within this thread how about contributing to the vote?

 

[the_r_sole]

I'm confused

What part of this round are you actually referring to? As to me it seems like you are going off on a tangent.

one of the entries in this round can't be typed on the forum and is a slang use of a word.

it has been deemed valid because it appears in the dictionary.

if slang terms are valid, what is the criteria for them?

 

[R-evans]

one of the entries in this round can't be typed on the forum and is a slang use of a word.

it has been deemed valid because it appears in the dictionary.

if slang terms are valid, what is the criteria for them?

I get ya. I didn't realise that entry had been deemed valid.

So;

____ up your Beaver is 5 points
____faced is 0 points

Correct?

 

[DirtyJester]

I get ya. I didn't realise that entry had been deemed valid.

So;

____ up your Beaver is 5 points
____faced is 0 points

Correct?

As with my summary (via link) yes.

But others feel, Ahleckz shouldn't get any points.