Bought an old BMW M3, filled with regret...

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... Regret that I didn't put more effort into getting one sooner :D

[UPDATED 2017.07.21] As it's been some 2.5 years of ownership, I have accumulated the bulk of the media and thoughts from this thread into this single OP. Figured it makes it easy to find everything for people, especially those who may also be looking at getting an E46 M3.

After over 40,000 miles of driving it, do I regret buying it over something cheaper to maintain? Certainly not. Sure, it has been expensive to keep on the road for those 40k miles in such a short space of time, but I don't think I'd have wanted to do that distance in any other car as an all round package.

I had the 318Ci for five years, wanted the 330Ci,. but they were £5000 over budget at the time, so five years later I am in a position to be able to buy an M3 instead. YOLO?

Not being a turbo, I do sometimes find I'm more cautious around cars with bags of torque low down the rpm range, but once the S54 is wound up, it's easy enough to keep a distance, especially from remap's increased top end performance. Compared to today's standards, perhaps it's not as quick as some hot hatches like the A45/Astra VXR and the like. But I found it to be quick enough for every situation on the road so far, and the noise it makes is always pleasing.

People generally seem to appreciate seeing a clean E46 M3 it seems. I regularly get comments when parking up or driving by in stop start traffic. I have also had some dumb comments thrown at me, recently a guy in a Z4 asked if it was a "genuine M or just an M sport" :rolleyes: :p

There are things I don't like. The soft top takes too long to open or close. 22 seconds is a long time when you're sat at a set of lights and trying to decide if the roof should go up or down for a few miles before hitting the motorway. I drove a new Boxster not long back, and that roof went up and down in 11 seconds. I wish there was a way to speed it up, or at least be able to do it in motion (above 3mph that is!).

The parking sensors are still iffy, they fix themselves some months, and most of the time they don't work. I've tracked it down to the loom having a break somewhere. A low priority task I think.

The soft top roof skeleton creaks in cold weather as the rubber joints rub against each other. They are not areas you can reach through the canvas, so I live with it until (unelss someone has ideas?!).

But there are more things I do like, so it all evens out I guess. The whole car feels analogue, more so since the suspension refresh. I've driven many newer cars and they all have epic refinement, but they are too quiet, barely making a peep from inside the cabin. With the M3 I can feel and hear exactly what the transmission and engine are doing.

Fuel economy wise it's pretty good for what it is. 400 miles from a tank is easy on a motorway run with some city driving thrown in. Long term average is sat at just over 24MPG. Average MPG between fill-ups is 21-22. The lowest I have seen so far over a distance is 18, but that was driving... briskly.

Initially I noted that I'd probably have this car for the long run, and this thought remains. I'll probably get an electric car for daily running, and leave the M3 for leisure exclusively. At this time, I feel I've invested too much time and money into it to think about getting rid. I still have a lot more destination driving I want to do with it, and it currently sits in a state of condition that I am completely happy with.



Previous car:
2003 E46 318Ci Sport / 143HP / 200Nm / 1345KG~ / Purchase mileage ~70k, closing mileage 109k / Owned for 5 years

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New car:
2005 E46 M3 Convertible / 343HP / 365Nm / 1640KG~ / Purchase mileage ~64k, mileage as of 2017.06.11, 96k

Bought this from Nick Johnson Motor Company. They deal almost exclusively with M cars, and Nick personally picked me up and dropped me off in their CSL, which was pretty damn sweet. I knew then that if I were to buy the car, I'd be wanting that CSL sound (more on that later).

The purchase itself went very smoothly, no problems whatsoever. I did however notice a few things shortly after purchase that weren't obvious initially.

1: Driver side wing mirror was glued back on at some point, the glue wasn't very good and it simply collapsed in my hands when I first washed the car :eek:

2: There was also a small indication of bubbling below the wing mirror on the Aluminium base (this is normal for all E46 M3s). I used both issues as fuel to request that both wing mirrors be replaced. The dealer sent me two newly painted wing mirrors, and I simply swapped them over and sent the old ones back.

3: The battery was dying. I knew this before purchase, and Nick personally told me that the battery would be sorted before collection, so i assumed everything was in order. It was not, and the day after purchase the car would not start. I phoned RAC, who came round and I purchased a battery off them with lifetime warranty. Nick then re-reimbursed me.

4: The paintwork had a bad quality machine polish done. Buffer trails and holograms on every panel. I had Envy Car Care in Fareham work their magic and apply ceramic coating to the paintwork several months later.

Photos shortly after purchase (having had the steering wheel retrimmed, gear knob replaced, boot spoiler installed):

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Photos since then up to present day, having had the following bigger mods and preventative maintenance jobs done:
- Evolve Eventuri carbon air intake kit
- Evolve stage 1 remap @ +20HP, +15Nm, power to 8300rpm vs 7050rpm (stock)
- All wheels swapped at First Aid Wheels with fresh diamond cut ones
- DSC pressure sensors 1 and 2 replaced
- Thermostat replaced
- Front calipers replaced with Bigg Red refurbished ones in premium black finish
- Various coding customisations using Carly for BMW
- M-Track mode activated using NCS Expert
- Windscreen replaced due to stone chip with BMW replacement after much faffing with Autoglass
- Xenon bulbs upgraded with Phillips Xtreme Vision
- Front 4 indicator bulbs upgraded to LED parts from Weislicht in Canada (
- BMW short weighted gear knobs replaced with longer original E46 M3 illuminated knob, then later replaced with titanium plated billet knob and handbrake lever from Storm Motorwekrs
- Rear bumper diffuser upgraded to CSL diffuser, carbon fibre finish painted to be body colour (from another M3 owner).
- Exhaust tips replaced with slightly larger ones, custom made by a Cutters forum member
- Complete bushings refresh
- Wishbone and ball joints refresh
- Goodridge stainless steel braided brake lines upgrade
- PFC Z Rated brake pads upgrade
- Both headlamp lenses replaced due to stone chips
- Headlight beam adjuster droplink replaced due to breaking in Scotland
- A single open pitlane trackday at Bedford Autodrome
- Rusting lip on driver's side front wing replaced with a new genuine one
- The car was rear ended back at the end of 2015, and the third party's insurer deemed it to be a Cat C due to the cost of repairs exceeding their margin for approving the repairs. A damned shame if you ask me, and insurance only seems to be a con for the non fault party in this regard. I kept the car and accepted their settlement payout, then had the car repaired at a bodyshop I know, documented the repair process with photos and called it a day.
- Modified the glovebox torch to become a 12v 5A outlet. Now the phone chargers/camera are powered from here instead of the fusetap. Tidier cabling, more factory fit and finish.
- Rod bearing failure resulting in the need for a new engine. Read about it in this post.

What I like about it the most is absolutely the engine post Eventuri install. Coupled with the manual gearbox and shorter weighted gear knob, the combination not only feels great, but the sound that burbles in from 2500rpm all the way to 8000rpm and only gets louder as the revs climb is surreal.

It’s not something anyone riding with you expects, and the way the engine revs with that noise, with the bhp taking over when where torque peaks out brings huge smiles. Roll the windows down and the sound is just even greater still.

This is a convertible wrapped in leather and heavy sound deadened trim, yet it sounds and feels the way it does from such a simple (and relatively cheap) modification. Granted that 2005 and beyond E46 M3s share the CSL’s exhaust manifold, so this helps in the more raw sound.


A few members here have been passengers at various meets since I’ve had the Eventuri installed (although not after the remap) has been installed, and will definitely attest to the great noise :cool:



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^ The Sunday wash includes engine bay wipe down

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^ Ceramic coating looks amazing. Carbon Black still gets dirty/dusty within 48hrs though.

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^ Met up with NickX for a photo session in London

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^ The illuminated knob is nicer to hold than the short weighted Sport knob.But the length of this knob isn't to everyone's taste.

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^ FA Wheels do fantastic work with diamond cut wheels. The refurbed calipers also freshen up the otherwise browned standard unpainted finish.

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^ Roger Penny Way in the New Forest is a superb place for not only landscape photography, but cars.

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^ Evolve were super friendly when I went for the remap.

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^ That photo got featured by BMW on their social media!

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^ The engine bay is much loved by my indy. They always look forward to working on it. Can't blame them :p

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^ I initially installed a Parrot Asteroid Smart, but then upgraded to an Erisin Android unit which much better suits the dash due to the OEM styling. Also runs the latest apps, so Waze and Pushbullet come in very handy.

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^ The interior was in good condition when I bought the car, but with a little more effort, it's in excellent condition under my ownership. It's probably tidier than most cars that are only a couple of years old.

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^ Contrary to internet legends, I found the Pilot SuperSport tyres to not be that great in typical British weather. DSC would kick in all too often when leaving junctions from standstill (the most annoying bit), and that wasn't even applying too much power. The CSC6 however, excellent by comparison. The only time DSC now intervenes is if I'm provoking the back end.

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^ After a wash, the car looks absolutely amazing. That being said, it doesn't even last this way for a full two days before dust and grime settles, making the gloss look a bit dull. I will never be buying a blacky again.

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^ The original exhaust tips were in fair condition, but not even Autosol could polish up the inner lips fully.

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^ The Euro tips suit the car much better. A bit of a faff to install, but all in an afternoon's work.

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^ Diffuser installed, excuse the road filth.

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^ Still got a proper European road trip to complete (Swiss Alps), but Scotland's NC500 was totally mint. ~2000 miles door to door, a broken drop link and dirty car. All worth it.

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^ A little closer to home, Hampshire has some nice roads and views. When the sun's out, it's time to put the roof down and enjoy the road.

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^ A little pit stop during a night drive.

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^ Storm Motorwerks Titanium plated handbrake handle and gear knob. E30 M3 inspired version, with OEM style top plate.


Videos:

^ The exhaust note of the E46 is split 50/50. Some like it, some hate it. I like it.

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^ @ 20s in. The induction noise with the Eventuri installed is too addictive from both inside and outside the car.

^ NC500 compilation
 
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I gotta ask, aren't bored of the same interior type thing?

Not me! I'm one of few who actually likes the interior of the E46/E39 era, it's a solid driver focused place to be whether the journey is long or short. I don't like that on newer models the centre console is no longer facing the driver and it's flatter.
Looks fantastic :)

The AC wouldn't kick in at those low temps anyway would it?

Some kind of silicone lubricant should help with the creaking seals.

Ah yes good point, below 3 degrees it won't activate until the engine is warmed up I believe - At least it has been working since re-gassed in sub 3 degrees temps because the windows were initially misty upon me breathing are no longer misty the moment I start the car and the CC kicks in.
 
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It's within the bay :mad: ;) What more do you want from me!

The interior of the E46 is perfect. They will never really better it in my opinion. Sure they will get more fancy, but from a functional, driver orientated perspective, the E46 was a real high point. Well everything about the E46 was a high point ;)

Car looks absolutely stunning dude, really wonderful. Enjoyed reading the write up and the photographs are great. Can I ask what was the dealer called?

Sure, it's from Nick Johnson Motor Company :)
 
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I posted a Vimeo link in the op! But if you mean videos of donuts and burnouts then I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. I enjoy driving the car enthusiastically and driving through exhaust appreciation tunnels but not doing burnouts and donuts and revving the car endlessly while idle like a plank :p
 
Congrats on the M3, 13k does seem a lot though, Do you plan to keep this longer than 3 years ?

Yes indeed :cool: :

I don't know what car I will get after this, I don't even know if I want to ever get rid and instead just keep it a well loved example. If and when my life situation changes in the future I will simply just get whatever electric saloon car is ideal for that need and keep the E46 for the moments I need some me time

It would certainly be nice to have one of the nicer examples of this model on the road in years to come when many of them will likely be in questionable states.
 
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I agree Gaygle but I had to have this example and I hope the pictures do show why! It was a pleasure owning one of the nicest examples of E46 Sport most people will see on the road, both mechanically and visually. I can happily continue that with the M3.

I've done the research too and heated seats can be retrofitted if desired. For me that's a thing that's nice to have but not strictly a requirement. If a set of heated seats come up for cheap or just the elements then I'll take out the elements, buy the switch panel and fit it myself. Like most things E46, an element of faff is involved of
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Very nice mrk! That detailing session really paid off. Looks immaculate.

Now you have a car worthy of your photograghy skills :p

Hey hey... That car is still a good car!
 
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Better than the same photos in some dank field driveway every time though right, Cosimo? ;)

I've done my main pics post purchase, everything else will from now on be from road trips and the like. Europe later in the year if all goes to plan.
 
Thanks guys :cool:

I think the novelty of having the roof down will wear away a bit but not entirely. That exhaust note with the roof down I tell you will never ever get old!

I know we've had some poor weather and yes indeed dirt shows up much easier than on the Titan Silver I had before. Even light stone chips are more visible as white specs - Sacrifices have to be made though I guess. I've seen those clear film wraps you can have applied on all panels, one guy did it to a custom 330Ci in the USA. No idea on costs or anything on them though but it's certainly an option if the dirt and grit showing up does end up being a right pain. At least it won't be harming the paintwork.

It is Carbon Black but it's more of a very dark midnight blue. I wondered why it was called as such but then it hit me, Carbon Paper is often a really dark bluey colour :p

I will most likely keep the wheels kona, as you say they are unique to the E46 and this new finish is really sweet. I really like CSL wheels but as you say, too many reps about.

How Large is the fuel tank?

Edit: 63L
so ignore 1Gallon (the point most fuel lights come on)

Thats 12.87Gallons.
400/12.87 = 31MPG

Nice engine that
My Clio 172 just about manages that :O

The OBC was indeed showing 31.2MPG on a motorway run - It is a great engine and as bizarre as it may sound, economical for the performance on offer and the weight it's pushing. Local driving nets me 22-25MPG on average with bursts of excitement. I know some have said they've seen mid teens but they must have been flooring it everywhere!
 
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Your not trying hard enough. ;)
Yep can match your motorway run, but I typically average 17-20mpg which involves no motorways.

Also a tip if your car consumes any oil at all, mine was using 1/2 litre every 1000 miles, I changed out the air oil separator, a £20 part and 10 minutes to change, my car now uses no oil. :)

Already have the correct CSL tyre sizes so all good, I will keep these 19s though I think having thought about it some more. Thanks for the tips above though, the air oil separator sounds interesting, will keep an eye on oil consumption.

Btw I already have Euro tips. I'm just having a ballache of a time getting the stock tips off. Those pop rivets are on sodding tight. I can't even chisel them off. Someone recommended using a file to get them off but I can't see how could use a file correctly in that space? Probably a much easier idea to just take the whole backbox off and do it that way.

A job for another day :o
 
and smg.

jk mrk m8. Lovely looking car.

SMG retrofit planned for next week..... lol j/k m8.

Nice car, the guy who sold me his 330ci had just upgraded to one of these. Perhaps a path I will take come new car time :)

That Andrive headunit looks great too. What was the cost of it, I can't seem to find the product on their webpage?

It is this one: http://www.andrive.co.uk/android_bmw_e46.php

It's taken a month so far but the first 2 weeks were through the Christmas and New year period. I've been promised it is in transit on their pallet container though.

My other option was the new Parrot Asteroid unit which is a narrow frame/depth double din. It is also a direct fit but doesn't have the buttons around the side and will need a fascia bezel. It looks good but not as OEM as Dynavin/Andrive and other E46 Android units do of course. It is the last resort head unit should the Andrive not live up to expectations.
 
Just seen, it does sound good! I will see how I get on with these tip swaps as I now have a small list of things to try to get the rivets off :D
 
I have drills, too big for the gap on the top rivets. I bought a small drill for just this task later, still too big. Hence the above!
 
Aye Scania, I'm certainly not saying it's 100% perfect but it's most definitely as good as I'd probably expect for the age, for a car I'd consider to be very good condition. Example, the front of the bumper has some stone chip areas, the driver side wing has some very fine stone chip marks but nothing that's reached the paint, a chip repair guy could very easily remove them but I will simply wait for more to accumulate before getting those seen to. You can't even see them in the photos but you will notice them up close in person.

Had I bought a cheaper one and simply spent some money bringing it to the same condition I may as well have bought this in the first place :p

My brother has a coupe, Did some work on it on the weekend.

Couldn't believe how nice to work on it was, Everything is very easy and high quality.

Just an new battery and 5 new coils mind but even so...

Runs amazingly well now as well, Feels very smooth throughout the rev range and noticeably faster feeling in the bum dyno..

Need to get myself one.

Exactly this! It feels far faster than the paper numbers suggest and in most cases actually is. 0-60 on a cold slightly damp night I recorded some 5.1s so it's certainly not suffering due to being a heavier car, although saying that, the Coupe gets 4.6-4.8 in the dry in the real world!

I like one little trait of the S54, you could call it the calm before the storm I guess. As you build up speed through the revs, say in 3rd or 4th, climb from 2500 to 3500 and a deeper engine and exhaust note is heard, the moment you start climbing from 3500-4000 onwards the exhaust comes to life and remains that way to redline. It's addictive and the worst part is the engine just wants to live there.


Oh? I thought Hondas came standard with everything! That's very un-Japanese :p

nono, many smiles :D

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Stunning example, I see what you mean about the wheels now as they were pretty dirty when I saw them, those pictures make them look fantastic. Agree with Gibbo about the ACS exhaust, imo the tips look dreadful (no offence Tom!), would keep persevering to get the euro tips fitted like you had planned originally, less hassle and no unsightly tips then :)

The M25 didn't treat my wheels well I tell you, the amount of salt and grit was unreal!
 
Don't like convertibles but that looks like a nice example of a great car. Id keep it just as it is as years showed me that unless you plan to track it like Gibbo the various mods add nothing of value.

In long term/forever ownership terms I would indeed like to keep it looking as stock as possible, I think it will be better for it and will be somewhat unique in that most other examples won't have that going for them I guess! I don't plan on doing track days, this is purely a car for enjoying the road, top down or otherwise!

You just can't beat a big engine with the top down :)

A v8 + Convertible is the ideal situation to be in :D

They are nice, but just wait until you see the bill for tyres of parts :D

Already done :p It's not going to cost me that much more to maintain year round than my last car really relative to how far apart servicing and wear parts will get changed such as brakes, tyres and the like. I have a very good specialist too for main services and they have low labour rates.
 
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