Bravo

[Peerzy]

So how are you finding the remap? What's it like? Any problems?

Loving it. The powah is just so much more accessable. I can see what people mean now it's not all about top end figures they've made the car so much better to drive (not that it was bad before). No hint of turbo lag now and no matter what gear you're in just floor it and the car really pulls.

No real issues, sounds nice. Only small thing was the passenger airbag light as come on my dash, but I'm told this is normal with the Bravo's getting remapped and I just need to activate and deactivate the child saftey thing somehow and it goes away.

Very tempted to move into some more tuning now. Peter knows his stuff and was discussing getting a second Fiat turbo in there for about £500 fitted and with a few other bits looking at 230bhp-250bhp. Intercooler can be uprated, as well as a full exhaust system will add close to 10bhp (£350 any style).

I want to keep the car looking as standard as possible as I like how it looks currently. Also the idea of driving a 'bit' of a sleeper is nice.

Want to see what the 0-62 figures and stuff are now just to see what I'm technically on par with but no reliable way of checking near here and I don't know anyone with all the equipment.

that Peter stood there in the red top?

Sure is.

 

[blaze of glory]

My misses has a Fiat Sedici with a 1.9 multijet diesel 120bhp. I got that up to 150bhp for a 70 quid tuning box and nothing else. They have to be one of the most tuneable diesels out there.

 

[triggerthat]

Sounds like the clutch is coping with the power fine. You going to go for more power? It's going to get very expensive

An increase a MPG?

 

[Peerzy]

Sounds like the clutch is coping with the power fine. You going to go for more power? It's going to get very expensive

An increase a MPG?

MPG has been about 5-10 better when driven in a normal style. Shame I've been thrashing it a bit just enjoying the work so in total it's gone down a fair bit!

I want more now yeah, Peter seemed very confident in throwing another Fiat turbo in there and making it a twin turbo with a few other bits and pieces uprated, which sounds brilliant but also worring.

Anyone know how much difference a good uprated intercooler would do as the Punto guy had his done and it didn't cost too much extra for him.

 

[GeX]

if you are questioning the cost / effectiveness of an uprated intercooler - i dont think you'd want to spend the kind of money and extensive mods a twin turbo setup is going to need (think manifold, exhaust, inlet piping, oil lines, water lines, electrics, mapping, space?)

 

[Peerzy]

Mum picked up her 1.4 90bhp Bravo Dynamic a few weeks ago so I had to get a few photos. Prefer her interior (same as mine but Black instead of Blue) and although I do like Black exterior it's a real beehive to keep clean. Much prefer my alloys though.

Heres the car she's replacing;

 

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Fanboi (and fanmum)

 

[BeatMaster]

I do prefer the black interior but I disagree that it will be harder to clean, infact it'll be about the same or even easier. Just noticed that the gearknob is in the correct position on your Mum's Bravo

 

[Peerzy]

Fanboi (and fanmum)

I didn't even tell her to get one, we looked at pretty much every car in the supermini/small family hatch range. Golf, Yaris, Polo, Fiesta (old & new, Focus, Mondeo, Punto, 147, Jazz, Civic, Alfa GT, 1 series, A3, Leon and Ibiza.

We got in my Bravo after having a look at the Focus and she just said "You know what, I like this one the best, I want this one"

I do prefer the black interior but I disagree that it will be harder to clean, infact it'll be about the same or even easier. Just noticed that the gearknob is in the correct position on your Mum's Bravo

Yeah getting the gearstick done under warrenty, I was sure it was suppose to be like that but when I was testing them for my Mum I did notice they were all 'straight' and not 'artistically positioned at the driver'

As for cleaning I meant the paintwork on the outside, not the inside. Inside is the same material so shouldn't make too much of a difference but her black paintwork seems to be getting dirtier quicker than mine.

 

[strapped]

Pretty good cars these. I used to work for Avis and drove the 150 t-jet quite a lot. Watch out for the oil filler cap coming loose - had a lot of these cases!

Very nippy but with a remap it'll be close to 180bhp

enjoy

 

[Peerzy]

Pretty good cars these. I used to work for Avis and drove the 150 t-jet quite a lot. Watch out for the oil filler cap coming loose - had a lot of these cases!

Very nippy but with a remap it'll be close to 180bhp

enjoy

Mines 179bhp

 

[Goldy]

The 90bhp must be pretty gutless. I've got the 120 and its hardly speedy gonzales.

Whats a remap? Would it lower efficiency and void insurance or tax status?

 

[Defcon5]

Also the idea of driving a 'bit' of a sleeper is nice.

I would say it is already, it looks exactly the same as your mums, bar the wheels, (and her gearstick is straight) and I certainly wouldnt give it a second glance.

 

[BigglesPiP]

The 90bhp must be pretty gutless. I've got the 120 and its hardly speedy gonzales.

Whats a remap? Would it lower efficiency and void insurance or tax status?

It would be more efficient if you want. Sacrifice emissions for power. Wouldn't use more fuel, but develop more more power.

Insurance would be void if you didn't declare it, and more expensive if you do.

 

[Peerzy]

The 90bhp must be pretty gutless. I've got the 120 and its hardly speedy gonzales.

Whats a remap? Would it lower efficiency and void insurance or tax status?

It drives just like any other small engine car, certainly a bit faster than my 1.2 60bhp Punto was. Not gutless just not as quick. She doesn't drive on the motorway and only does about 5k a year round town so it's fine for her.

Funny thing is I'm getting better fuel economy than she is at the moment!

Won't change tax status, you do need to let your insurance company know and if you drive it the same as you do your car now it'll do about 5mpg-10mpg better. It'll also up the power.

£380 will take your 120bhp (I assume Tjet Petrol?) to about 155bhp with a remap and induction kit (needed to be able to get the best out of a remap).

 

[Goldy]

Thx. I actually had a 1.2 punto before as well. It wasn't so bad when pulling away come to think of it.

The tax position would be worse off if emissions worsened due to enginge remap. Company car tax is partly done on emissions. Plus who's to say how much a remapping would cost. I'm sticking with how it is for now, but thanks for the info.

 

[Peerzy]

Thx. I actually had a 1.2 punto before as well. It wasn't so bad when pulling away come to think of it.

The tax position would be worse off if emissions worsened due to enginge remap. Company car tax is partly done on emissions. Plus who's to say how much a remapping would cost. I'm sticking with how it is for now, but thanks for the info.

Punto could hit 60mph in 2nd which is why it felt fast untill you got into 3rd. It was a car designed to be ragged round a town and not motorway driving which is why it fails above 3rd gear.

Company car tax is done on the emissions which is written on your V5. So mapping won't change it in the slightest.

I remember reading one of the current faults in the taxing on emissions is it only ever goes on the emissions the car gave out as it rolled out of the factory and whats written on the V5, heavily modified cars can give it twice as much C02 but still be taxed under the original figure.

Map and Induction Kit costs £380 from Peter at Red Dot.

 

[ethos]

Looks smart, bet your mum is loving that after the rover!!

 

[Begbie]

Next time you upload pictures please open them in Paint first, resize them and resave then. This will make them much smaller. Each of your images are so large the forum auto resizes them, and they are 700kb each. Some of us access the forum using 3g connections where we only get 200-500mb a month. This is more than enough for normal web browsing and normal pictures but it's a bit of a mickey take when 10mb of our allowance is used up with blurred pictures of a Bravo

Turn down the image quality and stop complaing you old git!!!

Nice wee car you have there, nippy for a 1.4 aswell!!

 

[Peerzy]

Looks smart, bet your mum is loving that after the rover!!

She hardly does any driving really, she didn't mind the Rover as much as you would have thought but loves the Bravo.

Nice wee car you have there, nippy for a 1.4 aswell!!

Yeah it really makes you think when it is only a 1.4. The speed of the VAG 2.0T engine but the running and buying costs of there 1.4.

Most people I speak to say "Oh a 1.4 that must have been slow you should have got a 2.0 Focus or something". Infact a (female) friend who owns a 1.4 Lupo simply wouldn't believe it was as quick as a GTi, going with the logic "Well mines a 1.4 and its slow so yours must be too".

I'm done with modding it now, going to leave it at 179bhp and not going to lower or do anything else. I start a new job tomorrow which means I'll only be driving it like 40-50 miles a week. The job is only for a year (placement year - part of my uni course) so all the money I earn from that will be going towards the mad car fund which should mature in about 12months. I love the car so much I just wish Fiat did an Abarth or really hot version.