Brazilian Grand Prix 2011, Interlagos Circuit - Race 19/19
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This is what I don't understand.
Pretty much everybody who watches F1, knows what is coming. Vettel has a great car (which appears to be getting progressively quicker as the season wears on) and IS the polemeister, so when he gets pole...why the shock? And this happens in virtually every qualifying session. It's almost as if they think that he fluked all his previous pole laps.
Any way, prediction for the race:
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Alonso
I'm can't believe that Vettel won the title with so many races to go. Let's hope that next year RBR don't produce such a great car. The last few races have lacked spice as a result of them having little relevance.
I'm mostly looking forward to pre-season testing, now; tomorrow's race feels like a chore.
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Well the reason they come across all shocked is because they have to for television purposes.
Would be no point going "Vettel's going to get pole, but continue watching anyway to see who will get 2nd and 3rd"
So Kimi's not going to Williams. I'm not surprised.
However, it got me thinking. What if Red Bull were to bump Webber, obviously have to pay him all he's due, basically just buying him out of his contract 100%. Then just offer the seat to Kimi - no pay, drive the car for free (or maybe offer half a $million per win). For Red Bull they get a straight swap of Webber for Kimi, for Kimi he gets a seat in what's likely to be a championship winning car. Webber - gets screwed.
Could something like that happen? Would Webber be able to sue RB for far more than his actual 2012 contract claiming damage to his career and lost future earnings?
However, it got me thinking. What if Red Bull were to bump Webber, obviously have to pay him all he's due, basically just buying him out of his contract 100%. Then just offer the seat to Kimi - no pay, drive the car for free (or maybe offer half a $million per win). For Red Bull they get a straight swap of Webber for Kimi, for Kimi he gets a seat in what's likely to be a championship winning car. Webber - gets screwed.
Could something like that happen? Would Webber be able to sue RB for far more than his actual 2012 contract claiming damage to his career and lost future earnings?
Makes no sense at all.
Firstly if RBR wanted Kimi they could have secured him months ago when they were still getting Webber to finalise his contract. They wouldn't have signed Webber for an extra year if they wanted Kimi. Besides Kimi is known for demanding a large pay packet, some think this was a large hurdle for Williams trying to employ him. Also Webber has stated before he doubts he'd look for another team once his time in RBR is over.
In a word, no.
Just wait until you see RB8
Alonso seems to believe that Ferrari are going to have a good car next year - they have been running some parts on their car (dodgy front wing) of late, which are verging on illegal, so it seems that they are developing a car which is closer to the "edge".
Roll on pre-season testing...
Alomso said the same this year, its company line .
Soldato
Worth putting a bet on Red Bull taking the 2012 WDC Sparky-F1? 
Soldato
Or there pushing to beyond their capabilitys
however a team manager that doesnt promote such thinking just shouldnt be a team manager sidenote
I hear through the grape vine that Red Bull will be going on a requitment drive of somesort soon?
Soldato
Once again Lewis is shown around that bint Nichole and once again he fails to perform as thought.
I mean he was never getting pole but beaten by button again. Unless it rains, race tomorrow will be quite boring. I'm looking forward to hearing more from Rubens than the actual race.
I mean he was never getting pole but beaten by button again. Unless it rains, race tomorrow will be quite boring. I'm looking forward to hearing more from Rubens than the actual race.
Soldato
The unfortunate thing about motorsport is you're only really as good as your car. In most sports you're measured purely on your talent and fitness such as athletics, tennis, football, boxing, rowing, skiing, gymnastics, etc. But in F1, there are potentially loads of drivers who could be in the top 3. Any one of those backrunners in the Virgin, Sauber, HRT, Lotus cars could probably get in the top 3 or even win races given a decent car. Is Webber really any better than Kovalainen, Kobayashi or Perez? Would Hamilton or Button have been in pole most of the season and won the championship if they were in Redbull cars and Vettel was in McLaren? Must be so frustrating for drivers who know they have the skill to win but not the car to back up their talent.
Not true at all - look at how mediocre Kovi was in the McLaren for a couple of years. Even being compared to LH (which isnt easy, esp for a rookie as HK was then) Kovi only did averagely compared to what the car was capable of.
Im sure LH, JB or FA especially could have got the poles/ wins in the RB7 that SV got this year because the car has been so far ahead of the competition for majority of the races and there is probably only a tiny % of difference in teh talent levels across all of them - its been proven that MW isnt as good, but I would guess Massa is about Mark's level also which is a fair bit behind the other 4. To be fair to Mark though, it must be mentaly pretty tough to be so totally dominated (or should that be decimated) by your team-mate like he has been this season
Im sure there are talents that deserve better cars than they currently have just like there are drivers that dont deserve any car (Trulli really hasnt deserved that seat for most of the season)
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Any rain!? 
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Was just coming on here to try and find the answer that very question!