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V-Spec · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:15

groen said:
You think people working in security companies or TSA/DHS/FBI are angels?

At this point with no one taking responsibility and no obvious motive. The only motive is a security led operation to further encourage security at these sorts of events.

????

anything I don't mind · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:17

I seem to be getting a lot question marks. Why is it such a surprising line of thought?

Is it that out of the question to think that a security entity would engage in an operation that would further the requirement for their security entity?

Raymond Lin · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:19

groen said:
You think people working in security companies or TSA/DHS/FBI are angels?

At this point with no one taking responsibility and no obvious motive. The only motive is a security led operation to further encourage security at these sorts of events.

Btw, sorry to burst your bubble, they would tender for the contract.

Charging 10x as much isn't going to work when another company can offer the same for the current market cost.

Your theory stinks.

Next!

Sliver · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:19

groen said:
At this point with no one taking responsibility and no obvious motive. The only motive is a security led operation to further encourage security at these sorts of events.

The conspiracy theories begin . . .

V-Spec · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:20

groen said:
Is it that out of the question to think that a security entity would engage in an operation that would further the requirement for their security entity?

?????

dowie · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:31

groen said:
But it has all the hallmarks of a security led operation. ie some security company or organization or other party with financial interest, is looking to get some big marathon security contracts next time around. Set up a bomb attack and then next marathon lock it down like a prison and charge them $millions.

seems reasonable

erm wait....... wat?

elmarko · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:36

groen said:
But it has all the hallmarks of a security led operation. ie some security company or organization or other party with financial interest, is looking to get some big marathon security contracts next time around. Set up a bomb attack and then next marathon lock it down like a prison and charge them $millions.

This is you.

http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Tinfoil-hat.jpg

dowie · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:38

groen said:
I seem to be getting a lot question marks. Why is it such a surprising line of thought?

Is it that out of the question to think that a security entity would engage in an operation that would further the requirement for their security entity?

yes it is rather.... leaving aside the morality/far fetched aspect of it all it doesn't even make sense from a business point of view

A security company (assuming that one even is) contracted to provide security for an even such as this would likely be rather large entitly and fairly diverse... This is an annual event and likely represents only a small portion of revenue... risking your entire company to try and increase the revenue you earn for a once a year event isn't particularly feasible.

While there are security 'companies' who use violence in order to charge for security services they tend to do it in low key ways to small business owners... they tend to be run by decedents of Sicilian immigrants.

G-MAN2004 · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:40

Instantly knew it would be groen when I read his post. The guy is a nutjob.

bitslice · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:45

Scougar said:
Apparently the Pakastani Taliban is denying it:

Damn, must be internal then, what a waste of everybodies time this is going to be

Cosimo · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:46

groen said:
But it has all the hallmarks of a security led operation. ie some security company or organization or other party with financial interest, is looking to get some big marathon security contracts next time around. Set up a bomb attack and then next marathon lock it down like a prison and charge them $millions.

You couldn't make it up if you tried....

Firestar_3x · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:46

Raymond Lin said:
Btw, sorry to burst your bubble, they would tender for the contract.

Charging 10x as much isn't going to work when another company can offer the same for the current market cost.

Your theory stinks.

Next!

But what if all the security company's had a hand in it? Wholesale price increase......

Or not....

Some people should be medically sedated and put in a padded cell for everyone else's safety.

AndyT · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:47

bitslice said:
Damn, must be internal then, what a waste of everybodies time this is going to be

Eh? Were you hoping it was some middle eastern group?

Can someone change Groen's name to Groan?

Edrof · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:48

doofer said:
It might be linked to the Boston IRA Tapes being released by the US Supreme Court, Boston was/is a hot-bed of American-Irish IRA support and the tapes apparently have information that they didn't want the UK/Irish Govts. to get their hands on.

The bombings at the Boston Marathon have the hallmarks of an IRA attack. Could they have been a warning against the release of these tapes?

What are the IRA's hallmarks?

bitslice · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:50

AndyT said:
Eh? Were you hoping it was some middle eastern group?

Well yes,
new contacts, new paper trails, new groups to monitor.

If it is just some internal nutjob then almost nothing is gained intelligence wise, you identify the suspect and then everyone goes home.

Gerard · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:52

doofer said:
It might be linked to the Boston IRA Tapes being released by the US Supreme Court, Boston was/is a hot-bed of American-Irish IRA support and the tapes apparently have information that they didn't want the UK/Irish Govts. to get their hands on.

The bombings at the Boston Marathon have the hallmarks of an IRA attack. Could they have been a warning against the release of these tapes?

You do realise that these supposed "IRA" tapes also have interviews from loyalist paramilitaries on them. A fact that the press seems to gloss over at every single opportunity. If you were to believe half of the crap that is in the media these days no loyalist paramilitaries ever existed at all ffs as they're rarely mentioned.

King85 · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:52

bitslice said:
Well yes,
new contacts, new paper trails, new groups to monitor.

If it is just some internal nutjob then almost nothing is gained intelligence wise, you identify the suspect and then everyone goes home.

You'd favour that over the simplicity of one nut job?

bitslice · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:53

Edrof said:
What are the IRA's hallmarks?

He's possibly thinking of the delayed bomb tactic.

Strikes me as internal - a pressure cooker with nails, hardly cutting edge (sorry about the pun)

King85 said:
You'd favour that over the simplicity of one nut job?

Yes, America hardly needs more enemies does it?
(Or more copycat attacks come to that)

Stolly · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:54

Edrof said:
What are the IRA's hallmarks?

Bombs in rubbish bins and bombs close together timed to catch people running away from an earlier bomb.

Not that this is very likley to to be an IRA bomb since Boston is where their support is.

Nightglow · 16 Apr 2013 at 18:59

Using a pressure cooker with nails is clever, as it will give the effects of a 'directional fragmentation charge ' bomb (IED)

Very similar effect compared to a MON 100 or similar AP mine.

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