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Breaking news, first benchmarks for the fermi are leaked.

benchies look impressive but the hard thing to swallow is if they are real :)

IF it hits rated clock speeds, everyone on earth thinks the 380gtx will be faster than a 5870 without question(well, at least in DX10), we also assume the card will be £400 or more, card thats twice the price of a 5850 but can't offer twice the speed and won't be remotely available and won't launch for another 4 months?

THe only question is if Nvidia can't hit their targeted clock speeds it could be quite a bit slower than they hoped, a lot closer to a 5870, and not hitting their clock speeds DOESN'T change how much it costs them to make. Meaning it would still have to cost £400 and be even worse value than its going to be.

Frankly those numbers are made up, we have no idea how it will do in various games, but I won't be remotely surprised by a few titles showing a ridiculous advantage, just like there are several titles where the 5870 is way faster than a 280gtx and others where its not so far ahead.

Remember that, the first benchies that get leaked that are real will be without question in Nvidia's strongest games performance wise, not their weakest. Because of the advantage various games have it could be twice as fast as a 5970 in one game, and half the speed of a 5870 in another game.

Overall performance is what we need to know and really, DX11 performance is one of the biggest questions right now.

You just don't need a 380gtx, or them in SLI to play any game now at 1920x1200, if you aren't buying it to make sure newer games in the next year can all continue to be maxed out well, its for epeen, those are really the only two options, I have no issue with the first, but DX11 performance will be key to those people.
 
I would expect Fermi to be better than ATI's current generation because they have had 6 months to improve clock speeds and design to eek out more performance.


If Fermi is not better Nvidia's current hard time is only going to get MUCH harder. To be honest it has to be better I am sure there is some serious market pressure involved.

So yes it will be better the question is by how much and are they better in directx 11. Directx 10 is yesterdays news.
 
Almost certainly fake benches.
If nVidia was really doing them you could bet your life they'd have benched Batman.

Mark my words, gtx360 will be roughly as good as a 5870, gtx 380 will be at most 20% faster, and the 5890 will remain the top performing card.
 

Good for you.

What part of "these are Nvidia benchmarks" don't you understand.

Clearly those numbers are not independent final hardware unbiased benchmarks.

probably Expected numbers predicted from the A1 and A2 silicon results, estimating for the increase in A3 clock speed and then some Nvidia bias placed on top.

Those numbers are in line with expectations if those specifications are correct.
 
Almost certainly fake benches.
If nVidia was really doing them you could bet your life they'd have benched Batman.

Mark my words, gtx360 will be roughly as good as a 5870, gtx 380 will be at most 20% faster, and the 5890 will remain the top performing card.

Probably about right. I would expect the 360 to be 5-10% faster than 5870 but more expensive. 380 will be 25-35% faster.

The 5890 will clearly be the fastest single card, dual GPU setup. Dual GT300s will be released to counteract the 5890.
 
Good for you.

What part of "these are Nvidia benchmarks" don't you understand.

Clearly those numbers are not independent final hardware unbiased benchmarks.

probably Expected numbers predicted from the A1 and A2 silicon results, estimating for the increase in A3 clock speed and then some Nvidia bias placed on top.

Those numbers are in line with expectations if those specifications are correct.

How can you even consider the numbers being in line with the specifications if you don't know what the individual components on the card are capable of OR what the architecture is capable of?

And they're not 'presumed' numbers for the hardware, they are fake pictures for trolling, it's really that simple.
 
Quite, simply, if those provided specs in thew OP are correct those are the numbers you would expect, even for a G200 architecture taking into account Nvidia bias. The thing is, the 360 specs look out of line and the clock speeds are at the high end of the target range.

We do know what the card is capable. We have official figures for the HPC part This allows theoretical performance comparisons.


Expect to see many more pictures like this, at least 1 of them will be from Nvidia PR.
 
We do know what the card is capable. We have official figures for the HPC part This allows theoretical performance comparisons.

Except that it doesn't, transistor counts, shader counts and clockspeeds dont mean anything unless its all old hardware. Theoretically each shader could do more work per clock than you are guesstimating based on previous hardware, it could do less work per clock too, there are lots of variables that make speculating on this new hardware useless. I'm not saying you're completely wrong, fermi hopefully will outgun ati and then the price wars can begin however please just speculate when we have something close to official, not just some troll.
 
NEW BENCHMARKS JUST IN!

Crysis @ 56789 x 56789

GTX 380: 4

HD 5870: 3.999999999999999999999r


OCUK Forums @ 640 x 480

GTX 380: 9999999999999999999999999999

HD 5870: 9999999999999999999999999999


YER MY MATE FROM NVIDIA TOTALLY AGREEZ INIT.
 
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