Bring on brexit!

String said:
@Scania aye, even when the truck is speeding 1mph over the limit everyone knows, as it takes him about 10 minutes to overtake his mate on the left. :mad:

:D
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So true!

I’ll never understand why truckers insist on “elephant racing”, I always back off a tad to let them pass but I know I’m in the minority, what really erks me is drivers who attempt an overtake on a hill when fully loaded only to run out of momentum and then just get stranded in the outside lane, I guess their lack of understanding of physics explains why they chose to be a driver rather than a scientist! :D
 
String said:
And if there were a gadget invented that ensured that any attempt to drop a crisp packet on the pavement would result in that crisp packet being automatically placed in a litter bin, then who could complain?

If you're going to offer an analogy, present it in full. ;)

There is literally no need to exceed the speed limit. It's selfish self indulgence.
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So because there's no feasible way to fully monitor a law that makes it ok to ignore?
 
The era of prolific speeding and it making a blind bit of difference to journey times is over. Most roads have regulatory speed limits set now, NSL signs are rare and the only roads that seem to have them are country lanes. At one time I could sit at 90per for long periods on motorways or A roads in cars or on a bike. Now with the volumes of traffic, trying to do that is at least foolhardy if not dangerous and you will just reach the next logjam that much quicker. In conclusion, this is a logical and necessary step to autonomous vehicles and increasing traffic volumes through more conformity.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Nope, it was a response to you talking about how speed limits are the law and that's that. There are many other laws too which people break all the time but are apparently not as relevant?
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Where have I claimed that a particular law was not as relevant? I simply haven't said that.

You appear to be inventing opposing points of view to argue against?
 
String said:
What about a couple of vodkas before you get behind the wheel, you ok with that little deviation?
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See now you're getting it, the law is the law sure, but that doesn't mean all laws are as bad to bend or break as others. Sure 75mph is technically against the law but really is it actually that bad being that you could literally drive to France and do it legally?
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Because it doesn't need answered. Of course that isn't ok under any circumstance and doing it leads to much more severe punishment than doing 75 in a 70 ever would.
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It's a fundamental point you raise. Because you think you have the right to interpret the law and decide which law you can break and by what margin.

It's not for you to decide the safe speed limit, it's for the law to dictate that, and if 75 was the safe limit then the red circles would have the number 75 in them. It's really very clear, just as the alcohol limit is very clear.
 
String said:
It's a fundamental point you raise. Because you think you have the right to interpret the law and decide which law you can break and by what margin.

It's not for you to decide the safe speed limit, it's for the law to dictate that, and if 75 was the safe limit then the red circles would have the number 75 in them. It's really very clear, just as the alcohol limit is very clear.
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I don't think I have the right at all, I do so at my own risk the same as everyone in the country. With speeding in particular the law is fairly flexible anyway and the majority of the time doing 75 will not get you a ticket even if you pass a camera.
 
theone8181 said:
Yes because literally everyday thousands of people get scraped off the autobahn where there is either no limit or much higher than our roads:p. See the problem with 'speed kills'mantra?
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If you look at the facts, the death rate on German Autobahns is higher than on British Motorways, at 1.6 deaths per billion kilometers on German autobahns compared to 1.1 deaths per billion kilometers on our motorways.

Therefore as you can see higher speed is directly linked to more deaths.
 
Gaygle said:
Why would Brexit shield us from these sorts of things? :confused:

If VW, Skoda, Seat, Audi, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Opel, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat, Volvo etc etc have to implement this into all of their vehicles - they aren't going to suddenly start going through the rigmarole of disabling it just for the UK are they, especially if it's a touted as a safety feature?
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Right - because they still insist on selling us left hand drive cars....
 
String said:
It's not for you to decide the safe speed limit, it's for the law to dictate that, and if 75 was the safe limit then the red circles would have the number 75 in them. It's really very clear, just as the alcohol limit is very clear.
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If there was a scientifically derived "Safe Limit" for either speed or alcohol, then it would be unlikely to be some nice round number. it would be something like 67.547.

Same for Alcohol.

These are just numbers plucked out of somebodies backside and exist solely for enforcement purposes (You are over the limit you naughty boy)

Without them, it would be necessary to demonstrate, in each individual case, whether the speed was dangerous or the driver too intoxicated to drive safely.

Limits are not about safety, they exist solely to make enforcement easier.

In my opinion, if you need a dial with numbers on it to tell you whether you are driving safely or not then you shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place!
 
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